PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems


KevinG

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Greetings!

I've been researching the PLA's SAM system, researching it from several sources, probably some of the systems are no longer part of the PLA's SAM system, but I'd like to address what PLA has today, such as available SAM platforms. If you can correct me, please. Grateful.

Q-7 - range 1-12 km
HQ-7B - range 1-15 km
HQ-12(KS-1A) - range 5-50 km
KS-1C - range 5-70 km
HQ-10 - range 9 km for subsonic targets and 6 km for supersonic targets
HQ-64 - range up to 18 km
HQ-17 - Range up to 25 km
FM-3000 - The 30 km range against aircraft and 20 km against missiles
HQ-16(HQ-16A) - range 40 km
HQ-16B - reach 45 km and 19 km of altitude
HQ-16C - range 70 km and 25 km altitude
S-300PMU - range 90 km
HQ-18 - 100 km range
HQ-9 - range 125 km to 27 km altitude.
S-300PMU1 - range 150 km
HQ-22 - 170 km range and 27 km altitude
S-300PMU2 - range 200 km
HQ-15 - Reach 200 km
FD-2000 (export, but it seems there are units employed in PLA) - range 200 km
HQ-9A - range 250 km
HQ-9B - range +300 km

Is this the complete PLA SAM system employed today?
What about S-400?
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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What about S-400?
The S-400 has two versions. The older 48N6 missile (could also be launched from S-300PMU2 launchers) has a 250km range. The newer 40N6 has a 400km range, and China appears to be the first non-Russian customer (of course, unless India or others got them covertly before China) of that missile. The 2014 S-400 deal signed between Moscow and Beijing included both 48N6 and 40N6.

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The Observer

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Thanks for the corrections.

It looks like the HQ-15 is an extended range version of the HQ-10. The HQ-10 is said to have been developed as the basis for the S-300PMU-1. Therefore, the HQ-15 would be the equivalent of the S-300PMU-2 or the PAC-2.
I looked up HQ-15 and Baidu said it's PLA's designation for S-300PMU/S-300PMU1. HQ-10 is the Chinese equivalent of RAM missile mounted on many PLAN vessels.

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Tam

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Greetings!

I've been researching the PLA's SAM system, researching it from several sources, probably some of the systems are no longer part of the PLA's SAM system, but I'd like to address what PLA has today, such as available SAM platforms. If you can correct me, please. Grateful.

Q-7 - range 1-12 km
HQ-7B - range 1-15 km
HQ-12(KS-1A) - range 5-50 km
KS-1C - range 5-70 km
HQ-10 - range 9 km for subsonic targets and 6 km for supersonic targets
HQ-64 - range up to 18 km
HQ-17 - Range up to 25 km
FM-3000 - The 30 km range against aircraft and 20 km against missiles
HQ-16(HQ-16A) - range 40 km
HQ-16B - reach 45 km and 19 km of altitude
HQ-16C - range 70 km and 25 km altitude
S-300PMU - range 90 km
HQ-18 - 100 km range
HQ-9 - range 125 km to 27 km altitude.
S-300PMU1 - range 150 km
HQ-22 - 170 km range and 27 km altitude
S-300PMU2 - range 200 km
HQ-15 - Reach 200 km
FD-2000 (export, but it seems there are units employed in PLA) - range 200 km
HQ-9A - range 250 km
HQ-9B - range +300 km

Is this the complete PLA SAM system employed today?

Its a great list, although I would say ranges should be more like the general range rather than the absolute. I would think HQ-9A is 125km+ and HQ-9B is 200km+. HQ-16A is 40 to 50km+ and HQ-16B is 70km+. HQ-16C is unknown but presumably 70km+. Again everything depends on the actual RCS of the target and ranges tend to be a curve in an X-Y graph.
 

schrage musik

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Its a great list, although I would say ranges should be more like the general range rather than the absolute. I would think HQ-9A is 125km+ and HQ-9B is 200km+. HQ-16A is 40 to 50km+ and HQ-16B is 70km+. HQ-16C is unknown but presumably 70km+. Again everything depends on the actual RCS of the target and ranges tend to be a curve in an X-Y graph.

Disappointed that even after years and years of rumor and anticipation, we still dont know much about the next-gen SAM systems which were supposed to enter service in the last decade:

HQ-19, the land-based, THAAD like, endoatmospheric (+anti-air?) theater defence system
HQ-26, the Naval, SM-3 like, endoatmospheric BMD system
HQ-29, the PAC-3 like next gen anti-air SAM system
the 5-5-5 naval SAM
 
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ougoah

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Disappointed that even after years and years of rumor and anticipation, we still dont know much about the next-gen SAM systems which were supposed to enter service in the last decade:

HQ-19, the land-based, THAAD like, endoatmospheric (+anti-air?) theater defence system
HQ-26, the Naval, SM-3 like, endoatmospheric BMD system
HQ-29, the PAC-3 like next gen anti-air SAM system
the 5-5-5 naval SAM

We know from US and Chinese official declarations, a few types of dedicated BMD/ASAT missiles have been tested in years prior and tested successfully. I do not think it is the pattern for PLA to reveal any such strategic missile system ever until they are obsolete and being retired. China's had BMD missiles built and BMD programs since 1970s at least with the 640 program and FJ series missiles. I remember there was one doco where there was a visit to a missile assembly or testing plant and a few shots of a gas section of a prototype or serially produced missile revealed on camera. Of course modern BMD missiles gain a lot more from China's much improved industrial abilities since the 1970s.

There is such zero chance the new BMDs and ASAT missiles which have been successfully tested and used since the 2000s would not be in service now especially with exponentially improved sensor and guidance technologies compared to what China could do in the 2000s... even then they could perform high altitude ASAT on fast moving LEO satellite with a kinetic kill vehicle on first shot.

The 5-5-5 new naval SAM isn't in service or if it is, isn't widely used or been in service for long. This follows the rule of only showing missiles that are on the way towards retirement or at the very least, very widely used as the mainstay weapon. Since the 5-5-5 may only have recently been making way onto new ships, if even in service, do not expect to see them so soon. Details have already been revealed haven't they? the details are in the name.
 

by78

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What missile are these? Can anyone identify? Are they even SAMs?

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Akame

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Yıllarca ve yıllarca söylenti ve beklentiden sonra bile, son on yılda hizmete girmesi gereken yeni nesil SAM sistemleri hakkında hala fazla bir şey bilmediğimizi hayal kırıklığına uğrattık:

HQ-19, kara tabanlı, THAAD benzeri, endoatmosferik (+anti-air?) harekat alanı savunma sistemi
HQ-26, Deniz Kuvvetleri, SM-3 benzeri, endoatmosferik BMD sistemi
HQ-29, yeni nesil hava savunma sistemi gibi PAC-3
5-5-5 deniz SAM

BWhen will we see these missiles? HQ-26, HQ-19 and HQ-29 ?
 

Suetham

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Disappointed that even after years and years of rumor and anticipation, we still dont know much about the next-gen SAM systems which were supposed to enter service in the last decade:

HQ-19, the land-based, THAAD like, endoatmospheric (+anti-air?) theater defence system
HQ-26, the Naval, SM-3 like, endoatmospheric BMD system
HQ-29, the PAC-3 like next gen anti-air SAM system
the 5-5-5 naval SAM
I was somewhat limited to commenting on the Chinese ABM system, as it was not the right topic. But since you broached the subject, I'm going to make a list for the ABM system.

The systems' reported performance is for ballistic and aeroballistic targets I found on the internet, if you can correct me, please:

HQ-12(KS-1A) - range 5-50 km
KS-1C - range 5-70 km
HQ-9 - range up to 25 km at 15 km altitude.
S-300PMU - range 35 km
S-300PMU1 - range 40 km
S-300PMU2 - range 40 km
FD-2000(HQ-9) -
HQ-15 - (this range remains to be confirmed for ballistic targets)
HQ-9A - (this range remains to be confirmed for ballistic targets)
HQ-9B - (this range remains to be confirmed for ballistic targets)
SC-19 - Like the HQ-19, the SC-19 can also be used to combat ballistic missiles or satellites at the lower end of low earth orbits. Range 1,000-1,500 km.
HQ-29 - Chinese equivalent of MIM-104F(PAC-3). Reach 2000 km.
HQ-26 - Chinese equivalent of the SM-3 for naval deployment - 2000 km range
HQ-19 - A widely updated version of the HQ-9 for combating ballistic missiles and satellites (ASAT) at the lower end of Low Earth orbits and is the Chinese equivalent of THAAD. Range 1,000-3,000 km.
 

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