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ACuriousPLAFan

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Excerpts from an academic paper on an ejectable escape crew module for a high-supersonic aircraft, with the listed (escape module operational) top speed of Mach 4 and at altitude of 30 kilometers (~98000 feet). Posted by @兰墨飞花_星海入梦日出烟燧 on Weibo.

Side note: ~31.4 meters of length is just shy of the SR-71 Blackbird's 32.74 meters.

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The full academic paper (published in 2020):
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Deino

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Excerpts from an academic paper on an ejectable escape crew module for a high-supersonic aircraft, with the listed (escape module operational) top speed of Mach 4 and at altitude of 30 kilometers (~98000 feet). Posted by @兰墨飞花_星海入梦日出烟燧 on Weibo.

Side note: ~31.4 meters of length is just shy of the SR-71 Blackbird's 32.74 meters.

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The full academic paper (published in 2020):
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mack8

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What the... So China is really working on a Mach 4 manned combat aircraft!? Not long ago we were discussing about an air launched missile with M=4, H=23km launch parameters.
 

ougoah

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What the... So China is really working on a Mach 4 manned combat aircraft!? Not long ago we were discussing about an air launched missile with M=4, H=23km launch parameters.

Would you be surprised that China's working on mach 5+ manned aircraft?

Why else has China been developing and test flying so many combined cycle engines, scramjets and detonation engine aircraft? Not just missiles, for reusable aircraft. They didn't even make it too much of a secret since you know, the US watches each flight closely with space and sea based monitoring. It's partly why the US is on record on multiple occasions saying that they've watched "many hundreds" of Chinese hypersonic test flights over the last two decades. It's why they say China's hypersonic aircraft and missile programs and far ahead of the US.

Three pillars of hypersonic manned aircraft; materials (this parts easy and pretty much mastered, just a matter of pushing and optimising even further), engines (China's flown TRCC, RBCC, rotating detonation engines and oblique detonation engines for many years), hypersonic flight control (HGVs and HCMs are stepping stones to scaling this to manned aircraft).

Question is what can you do with high supersonic/ hypersonic manned aircraft that you can't do with ballistic missiles, HCMs combined with stealth strike aircraft with much more range and payload. Nothing useful that's worth the extra effort. My guess as to why China's pouring in so much material and energy into this is because the first few generations may not be worth much compared to existing alternative platforms but this technology branch is certainly worth pursuing and what better time to start making an effort than the very moment when you realise something is worthwhile.
 

mack8

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Well, maybe manned high supersonic/hypersonic would be the defining feature of the 7th generation combat aircraft. As it is stated from the chinese point of view, especially as now China caught up and getting ahead of the main aviation powers, the research for the next generation is in full swing as soon as the previous one produces the intended flying articles, so just as full swing R&D for the 6th gen began soon after J-20 and FC-31 flew, now that J-36 and J-50 fly, they must be looking at the next generation.
 

gk1713

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What the... So China is really working on a Mach 4 manned combat aircraft!? Not long ago we were discussing about an air launched missile with M=4, H=23km launch parameters.
Interestingly in the year 2000, the design requirements for the PLAAF's air defense equipment were based on the assumption that the USAF would have 5 Mach bomber by 2025.
 

sunnymaxi

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Well, maybe manned high supersonic/hypersonic would be the defining feature of the 7th generation combat aircraft. As it is stated from the chinese point of view, especially as now China caught up and getting ahead of the main aviation powers, the research for the next generation is in full swing as soon as the previous one produces the intended flying articles, so just as full swing R&D for the 6th gen began soon after J-20 and FC-31 flew, now that J-36 and J-50 fly, they must be looking at the next generation.
government pledge for more high end manufacturing , more cutting edge research and fully self-reliance across the board in 15th five year plan. China have full fledge hypersonic program from propulsion to spaceplane to aircraft.

XAC alongside NPU have many projects related high supersonic and hypersonic.. wind tunnel simulation and developed many special wings for different programs .. at least for research purpose now.

this is just one branch of AVIC.. SAC and CAC have their programs as well.

this is the unique feature of China's industrial development, once supply chain mature you see many players.
 
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