Photos from the historic Japanese navy's visit to China

Jeff Head

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how is it compared to 054A ?
Even though one is called a destroyer and the other a frigate, they are of similar displacement, they have the same number of VLS cells (althiugh the VL ASROC is nice for the Japanese ship in addition to the AAW missiles), they both have a single main gun (the Japanese gun is a larger caliber), they both have two CIWS (the Tyoe 054A being larger caliber), they both have 6 torpedo tubes (the 054A being larger torpedos), they both carry a single helo (the Japanese vessel having a big edge in the helo), they both carry 8 SSMs.

Now, the Japanese vessel with its bow sonar and towed array probably has a qualitative edge of the 054A in this regard.

All in all though, they are outfitted very similarly.
 

In4ser

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I've noticed that the PLAN seem to use on 1 smoke stack on their ships rather than 2 like in most USN and JMSDF ships any reasoning behind it?
 

adeptitus

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My information on the Takanami class (高波級) is mostly based on internet sources, so take them for their worth.

The displacement of the ship is 4,600 ton standard and 5,300 ton full load. Length 151m, Width 17.4m, Depth 10.9m, Draft 5.3m. 170 crew standard.

Propulsion is by 2 x SM1C gas turbines (27,000 shp) and 2 x LM2500 gas turnbines (33,000 shp) for combined total max output of 60,000 shp, with published 30 knots max speed.

The ship is equipped with OPS-24 2-D air search radar, and 2 FCS-3 fire control radars. The OPS-24 is built by Melco (Mitsubishi Electric Corporation) and is considered one of the world's first naval AESA radar. The FCS-3 is built by Melco/Thales, some call it "mini phased array". Internet sources claims that the each of the FCS-3 system can control up to 16 Sea Sparrow SAMs at a time, and the whole system (2 x FCS-3) can engage up to 10 targets simultaneously.

For ASW, the ship is equipped with OQS-5 bow-mounted sonar, OQR-2 TASS, SLQ-25 towed decoy, 2 x triple Type 68 torpedo tubes, VL-ASROC, and SH-60J ASW Helo. The helicopter/aft deck is extended length to accommodate the various towed equipment.

The ship has an elevated deck in the front for its 32-cel Mk.41 VLS system. Initially, they were deployed with 16 x Sea Sparrow and 16 x ASROC. After ESSM integration, 8 of the Sea Sparrow cels will be used to equip 32 x ESSM, and the other 8 will be avail for other missiles. There were rumors of VL-launched SSM-1 but I think it's fake. When deployed in a battle group, VLS cels can be loaded with SM-2, guided by nearby Aegis AAW warship (Kongo?) via cooperative engagement.

Other equipment includes the 5" gun, 2 x Phalanx CIWS, NOLQ-3 EW jammer, SRBOC decoy launcher, 8 x AShM, etc.

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While the Takanami is a fairly powerful ASW DD, the 054A is just a GP (general purpose) Frigate by today's standards. I'm sure most of us are already familiar with various unconfirmed 054A specs, if not you can read them here:
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Because so much of the info on 054A is speculated, it's difficult to do a direct comparison. But from basic hardware perspective, the Japanese DD is bigger and better with more powerful engines & radar, though certainly at much higher price tag.

At this point we don't even know what kind of missiles are in the 054A's VLS, but I'm pretty sure that the PLAN's 1st generation VLS system wouldn't have quad-pack capability. So the Japanese ship's Mk.41 is more efficient and has wider selection of arms.

The torpedoes equipped on both ships are probably similar. I think the Japanese Type 68 is basically the Mk.46 torpedo?
 
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crobato

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Even though one is called a destroyer and the other a frigate, they are of similar displacement, they have the same number of VLS cells (althiugh the VL ASROC is nice for the Japanese ship in addition to the AAW missiles), they both have a single main gun (the Japanese gun is a larger caliber), they both have two CIWS (the Tyoe 054A being larger caliber), they both have 6 torpedo tubes (the 054A being larger torpedos), they both carry a single helo (the Japanese vessel having a big edge in the helo), they both carry 8 SSMs.

Now, the Japanese vessel with its bow sonar and towed array probably has a qualitative edge of the 054A in this regard.

All in all though, they are outfitted very similarly.

I'm pretty sure the 054A has its bow sonar based on its dry dock photos, and unless the 054A is carrying two or three towed decoys (yes, its different ship to ship), one has to be towing a sonar.
 

adeptitus

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I'm pretty sure the 054A has its bow sonar based on its dry dock photos, and unless the 054A is carrying two or three towed decoys (yes, its different ship to ship), one has to be towing a sonar.

@_@ I've looked at the rear photos of the 054A but could not find any holes where a towed sonar could be deployed. But then my mental image of a towed sonar are sized like mini-subs...
 

crobato

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@_@ I've looked at the rear photos of the 054A but could not find any holes where a towed sonar could be deployed. But then my mental image of a towed sonar are sized like mini-subs...

They are a lot smaller now, and in some vessels like Block IIA Burke, even deleted. Big towed sonar has a bad habit of getting tangled. Note even the Russians have quit their blimp towed sonars.
 
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