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delft

Brigadier
Yesterday at 8:29 PM

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Pentagon says Iraqi train-and-equip mission could end if attacks on Kurds continue
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Patrick Cockburn, one of the two good journalists at The Independent, writes in this article
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that
Mr Barzani and his KDP party sought on Monday to blame the PUK Peshmerga for the unopposed advance of the Iraqi security forces, accusing them of betraying the Kurds by reaching a separate deal with Baghdad. But Kurdish sources have told The Independent that both KDP and PUK had agreed that they were too weak to fight for Kirkuk, though orders did not reach all Peshmerga commanders in time.
It is all together an interesting article.
The episode shows that if the Syrian Kurds want autonomy they need to cooperate with the Syrian authorities and not act against them.
 

FORBIN

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New Egyptian Navy submarine, corvette arrive in Alexandria

The latest two additions to the Egyptian Navy’s fleet reached the country’s main naval base in Alexandria on October 18.

S42, the second TKMS-built Type 209/1400 submarine, arrived in Alexandria together with corvette ENS El Fateh, the first Gowind 2500 corvette to be delivered to the Egyptian Navy by French shipbuilder Naval Group.

The submarine and the corvette met in the North Atlantic to arrive home together. The two units also carried out joint training with the French Navy en route to Egypt.

S42 was delivered to the Egyptian Navy in a ceremony on August 8, while the ENS El Fateh delivery ceremony took place on September 22.

S42 was launched in December 2016 as the second of four submarines TKMS is to build for the Egyptian Navy. The ceremony took place four months after Egypt welcomed its first submarine S41 to the naval base in Alexandria, on April 19.

Egypt initially ordered two Type-209/1400mod submarines in 2011 and later ordered two more in 2014 as replacement for its ageing Romeo-class submarines.

The vessels arrive home just in time to take part in Egyptian Navy day celebrations commemorating the day Egyptian naval forces sank Israeli destroyer INS Eilat in 1967.

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ENS El Fateh and S42 berthing at Alexandria naval base.jpg
 
Tuesday at 11:05 AM
Yesterday at 8:29 PM

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Pentagon says Iraqi train-and-equip mission could end if attacks on Kurds continue
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and according to NavyTimes US Abrams tanks sway the battle in Kirkuk

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U.S.-supplied M1A1 Abrams tanks to the Iraqi Army provided an asymmetrical advantage over Kurdish Peshmerga and security forces during the battle of Kirkuk, according to an American volunteer and Peshmerga commander who witnessed the battle.

Moreover, the rapid fall of Kirkuk to the Iraqi Army calls into question U.S. foreign security assistance around and the unintended consequences of sophisticated U.S. weapon systems in war-torn regions and its ultimate impact on U.S. foreign policy goals and objectives.

Kirkuk’s capture by the Iraqi military sparked redrawn borders and renewed territorial disputes not seen since the days of Saddam Hussein. During the 1970s, Hussein’s brutal regime embarked on a program of “Arabization” by moving Arab families in around Kurdish-dominated Kirkuk.

Not until the collapse of Hussein’s regime in 2003 did the Kurds reclaim the oil rich city, but that unraveled in lighting speed on Oct. 16, when Iraqi forces led by U.S.-supplied Abrams tanks spearheaded towards the K1 airfield and an industrial zone just south of the city.

“You can’t take out an Abrams with anything they have over here. The Peshmerga don’t make IEDs [improvised explosive device] or VBIEDs [vehicle borne IEDs], so they’re shit out of luck for Abrams,” said Ben Alexander, an American volunteer with the Peshmerga. “Anyways, the Peshmerga that didn’t pull back originally were forced to leave because they/we would have all died and been surrounded if we hadn’t.”

Alexander is a former U.S. Army infantry officer who served a tour of duty in Afghanistan with the U.S. military. After leaving the U.S. Army, he worked various contracting gigs and ultimately volunteered on multiple stints with Peshmerga forces, even commanding a 26-man, entirely western unit for the Kurdish fighters.

Alexander was present in Kirkuk when the battle unfolded with Iraqi forces.

“We knew the Iraqi military was coming with a convoy of 200 to 300 armored vehicles to the west of Kirkuk,” Alexander told Military Times. “At about 1 a.m., a small group of us drove a few kilometers away from the base to see if we could see the vehicles coming. After 20 minutes or so, tracers started flying in both directions.”

The Iraqi convoys were being led by Abrams tanks, followed by Iranian-backed Popular Mobilization Forces, or PMF, in U.S.-armored Humvees and trucks, according to Alexander’s recollection of the events. The convoy that struck the industrial complex just south of Kirkuk had five Abrams tanks in it, Alexander said.

The U.S. coalition still contends there was only one engagement between Iraqi forces and the Peshmerga, which U.S. officials argue was a result of a miscommunication. That event occurred at an industrial zone south of the city.

Military Times reached out to U.S. officials in Baghdad to confirm whether the
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by Alexander of the firefight in the industrial zone between Iraqi and Kurdish forces was the same event characterized as a “miscommunication” by U.S. officials at Operation Inherent Resolve, or OIR.

U.S. officials instead reiterated earlier talking points about the engagement. “As stated in our release of Oct. 16, 2017, a limited exchange of fire occurred in Kirkuk during predawn hours on that date,” an official at OIR told Military Times. “We believe the engagement on the early morning of Oct. 16 was a misunderstanding affected by limited visibility conditions.”

“Shortly after rockets were hitting both sides along with Abrams rounds hitting the Peshmerga position in the industrial area of western Kirkuk,” Alexander said. “The Peshmerga commander and second in charge of that position were both killed, so the line crumbled.”

Iraqi forces eventually broke through, according to Alexander, and were only two kilometers from his position. “We returned to the base and started receiving rockets and mortars. Five landed on our base; they had us dialed in, knew the location prior to the attack,” he said, detailing the battle.

A Peshmerga commander ultimately ordered Kurdish forces back into Kirkuk, where they believed they could take on the Iraqi Army at various choke points, but the convoy was blocked by Kurdish civilian resistance fighters who feared the fight would harm civilians and destroy the city, Alexander said.

“The civilians wanted us to fight the Iraqi Army back at our base away from the city center,” he said.

“We also received news that Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, or PUK, Peshmerga forces left Kirkuk open and the Iraqi and Hashd al-Shaabi, or PMF, entered Kirkuk without resistance,” he added. “We were forced to withdraw from Kirkuk.”

Alexander’s unit fled the area taking a detour through the mountains towards the Kurdish city of Chamchamal not far from Kirkuk. There were civilians fleeing Kirkuk alongside the Peshmerga convoy as it moved away from the besieged city.

“Grown men cried as they begged us to turn around and fight. We were ordered to leave,” Alexander said.

According to Alexander, Iranian-backed PMF forces burned down Kurdish houses and decapitated Kurds.

“A city named Tuz Khurmatu got it worse than Kirkuk. All of their Kurdish fled to the mountains and are in a similar situation as the Yazidis were at Sinjar,” Alexander said. A recent United Nations report confirms some of Alexander’s story.

“The United Nations has received allegations of the burning of about 150 houses in Tuz Khurmatu on 16 and 17 October, by armed groups,” the
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reads.

Officials in Baghdad have downplayed the role of Iranian-backed militias in the Kirkuk fight and the level of military force brought to bear between Kurdish and Iraqi forces.

“We do not have reports of PMF units or the types of units that you had mentioned that we have received,” said Col. Ryan Dillon, the spokesperson for OIR, before reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday. “So, we don’t have any reporting or any indications that there are units in and around Kirkuk of the elements that you mentioned,” he added, referring to the Iranian-backed militias.

Alexander’s story of the fall of Kirkuk counters much of what U.S. officials have said about the incident. Furthermore, it highlights the unintended consequences of U.S. weapons in the region that may have upended the balance of power between Iraqi and Kurdish forces.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
The KDP probably got some sort of payoff* too (my guess is that Ankara and DC told them to fold, since they won't last long against a PUK (which has been more pro-Iraqi integration and has Tehran ties to boot)/ISF/PMF coup, and neither power will actually intervene enough to keep the KDP in power).

*My guess is a favorable split from NOC revenue, after Barzani and his cronies skim off their share.
 

delft

Brigadier
Tuesday at 11:05 AM

and according to NavyTimes US Abrams tanks sway the battle in Kirkuk

3 hours ago
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The story in other places is that KDP and PUK agreed to move out of Kirkuk but that some Pesh Merga units didn't get the news. It is certainly an exaggeration to talk about a battle. The Abrams tanks are vulnerable to anti-tank missiles which strangely were not mentioned.
 
now noticed (dated October 18) Turkish army engages in northern Iraq for first time in nine years
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The Turkish military has launched a land operation against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in northern Iraq, stating that its aim is to “prevent PKK militants from threatening border security.”

The operation is the first time in nine years that Turkish land forces have engaged in Iraq.

Commando units entered the Zap region of Iraq after crossing from the Çukurca district of the southeastern province of Hakkari. The move, which is part of “Operation Zap,” came after the military determined an increase in movement of outlawed militants in the area, Doğan News Agency reported on Oct. 18.

A total of 21 PKK militants have been “neutralized” since the air-supported operations began on Oct. 16, according to statements made by the military. Authorities use the word “neutralized” to refer to militants who are killed, wounded or captured.

Four soldiers were killed in two separate PKK bomb attacks in Zap, according to the army, which revealed the identities of the soldiers as Furkan Aydın, İlhan Sezer, Seçkin Arıkan and Adem Gezer.

Airstrikes were subsequently carried out in the area with warplanes and armed drones.

The aim of the operation is to “neutralize” PKK militants preparing cross-border attacks, maintain border security and secure the passage routes of Turkish soldiers to the military base regions in northern Iraq, according to the military.

The Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) has been conducting airstrikes in northern Iraq in order to prevent PKK militants’ infiltration, while also aiming to stop the militants from moving between Iraq and Syria.

The operation is the TSK’s first land move in Zap in nine years. The last one, “Operation Sun,” took place in 2008 and was carried out to destroy PKK camps in the region.

Meanwhile, a military drill that was launched on Sept. 18 near the Habur border gate in the Silopi district of the southeastern province of Şırnak is continuing.

The third stage of that drill, which began on Sept. 26, includes the participation of the Iraqi armed forces and related units.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Let's be honest much of the recent Egyptian navy purchases are in part offset by Saudi money

1 because Egypt support Saudi on Yemen
2 because they handed islands to Saudi

Will Egypt be able to mount a true amphibious operation far from home shores ?

No not even in 10 years time

Will Turkey? Defiantly yes
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The story in other places is that KDP and PUK agreed to move out of Kirkuk but that some Pesh Merga units didn't get the news. It is certainly an exaggeration to talk about a battle. The Abrams tanks are vulnerable to anti-tank missiles which strangely were not mentioned.
All Tanks are vulnerable to ATGMs hence the name Anti-Tank Guided missiles. However the biggest "weak point" if you can call it that on Abrams has been the ammo box.
This however is intentional. The Tank was designed to keep the ammunition in the bustle storage away from the crew and hull adding to that blow out panels so that in the event of a cook off event the main damage would be isolated to the racks and crew would have time to escape.


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That tank clearly burned. probably a hit to the ammo or a fuel cell with a fire.

In Iraq and Yemen I suspect the major problem for tank as a whole has been issues between Armor and supporting Infantry this allowed Tanks to be disabled forcing the crews to abandon Tank. Where Adversarial forces can then close in and demo the tank.
If infantry and Armor are not operating as part of combined arms Tanks are useless.

IED's of large size can also disable or destroy a Abrams or any armored vehicle These come in 2 forms first very large IED's as much as 70 pounds of explosive or more. or more sophisticated explosively formed penetrators which is a shaped charge with a soft metal cap that when detonated will form a metal slug traveling at hyper sonic speeds.
 
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