Pakistan Economy Thread

Rettam Stacf

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I am quite disappointed that the CPEC is not creating enough economic benefits to Pakistan after almost 10 years of development.

To mitigate the risk of Strait of Malacca choke point and potential interruption of maritime traffic in the Indian Ocean by hostile states, China have developed two direct access to the Indian Ocean via the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) anchored by the Gwadar Port and the China Myanmar Economic Corridor (CMEC) anchored by the Kyaukpyu Port. Comparing the two, each has its own geographic advantages and disadvantages.

The CMEC mainly traverses flat plains while the CPEC has to pass through high mountains separating China and Pakistan, making any transportation infrastructure engineering more challenging and economically more expensive.

But Gwadar Port is strategically more attractively. It is much closer to Africa and the Persian Gulf than the Kyaukpyu Port, minimizing any potential maritime traffic interruption. In fact, ships leaving the Persian Gulf can sail within Iran's and Pakistan's territorial water to reach Gwadar, eliminating any potential foreign interference in international water.

However, it is disappointing to see the CPEC is not generating the kind of economic benefits to Pakistan as CMEC for Myanmar, where oil and gas pipeline is already operational, and rail link to China is being built.

CPEC and CMEC, as part of China's BRI Initiative, are mainly for infrastructure development. Infrastructure is an industrial development enabler and not an industrialization itself. While during build phase of the infrastructure, it looks good on FDI. But after the completion of the infrastructure, loan has to be repaid. So the host country must leverage the infrastructure and work hard at attracting industries to create revenue for the country. I have not seen enough of that effort from Pakistan.

Furthermore, while Pakistan have yet to discover significant oil or gas reserves in her maritime economic zone, Pakistan does have an energy source in near by Iran. Granted that oil and gas pipelines to China has to overcome some significant engineering challenge and will be more costly to build as well as to transport, they are not beyond China's technical and financial capability given today's energy prices and geopolitical risks. But China will not take the financial risk unless she is assured of availability of oil and/or gas either from Pakistan (to be discovered) or from Iran. Iran has already build pipelines to her border with Pakistan, hoping that she can send oil through Pakistan to China and/or India, thus bypassing sanction, while Pakistan can just sit and collect hundreds of millions of transit fees. Another advantage of oil and gas transit through Pakistan is that Pakistan will have additional leverages over her three major neighbors to the North, East and West. But first, Pakistan must overcome her ideological hurdle to make this happen politically.
 

AndrewS

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I am quite disappointed that the CPEC is not creating enough economic benefits to Pakistan after almost 10 years of development.

To mitigate the risk of Strait of Malacca choke point and potential interruption of maritime traffic in the Indian Ocean by hostile states, China have developed two direct access to the Indian Ocean via the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) anchored by the Gwadar Port and the China Myanmar Economic Corridor (CMEC) anchored by the Kyaukpyu Port. Comparing the two, each has its own geographic advantages and disadvantages.

The CMEC mainly traverses flat plains while the CPEC has to pass through high mountains separating China and Pakistan, making any transportation infrastructure engineering more challenging and economically more expensive.

But Gwadar Port is strategically more attractively. It is much closer to Africa and the Persian Gulf than the Kyaukpyu Port, minimizing any potential maritime traffic interruption. In fact, ships leaving the Persian Gulf can sail within Iran's and Pakistan's territorial water to reach Gwadar, eliminating any potential foreign interference in international water.

However, it is disappointing to see the CPEC is not generating the kind of economic benefits to Pakistan as CMEC for Myanmar, where oil and gas pipeline is already operational, and rail link to China is being built.

CPEC and CMEC, as part of China's BRI Initiative, are mainly for infrastructure development. Infrastructure is an industrial development enabler and not an industrialization itself. While during build phase of the infrastructure, it looks good on FDI. But after the completion of the infrastructure, loan has to be repaid. So the host country must leverage the infrastructure and work hard at attracting industries to create revenue for the country. I have not seen enough of that effort from Pakistan.

Furthermore, while Pakistan have yet to discover significant oil or gas reserves in her maritime economic zone, Pakistan does have an energy source in near by Iran. Granted that oil and gas pipelines to China has to overcome some significant engineering challenge and will be more costly to build as well as to transport, they are not beyond China's technical and financial capability given today's energy prices and geopolitical risks. But China will not take the financial risk unless she is assured of availability of oil and/or gas either from Pakistan (to be discovered) or from Iran. Iran has already build pipelines to her border with Pakistan, hoping that she can send oil through Pakistan to China and/or India, thus bypassing sanction, while Pakistan can just sit and collect hundreds of millions of transit fees. Another advantage of oil and gas transit through Pakistan is that Pakistan will have additional leverages over her three major neighbors to the North, East and West. But first, Pakistan must overcome her ideological hurdle to make this happen politically.

Oil and Gas pipelines from Pakistan to China don't really make much sense. To reach the demand centres in Central China, pipelines would have to cross at least 3000km of Chinese territory plus 1000km of Pakistan. In comparison, pipelines only have to cross 600km in total before reaching a demand centre in Yunnan. The same logic applies to roads and railways.

I think the biggest thing is to resolve the electricity shortages in Pakistan and provide cheap reliable electricity. That should spur development and export industries of all sorts.
 

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By Tahir Ali | Gwadar Pro Jun 7, 2022



Pakistan exports to China rise 55% in May

Source: TDAP documents
ISLAMABAD, June 7. (Gwadar Pro)- Pakistan’s exports to China in May 2022 have increased by 55% to reach US$228.92 million as compared to the corresponding month of the previous when it was recorded US$147.43 million in May 2021, according to Trade Development Authority Pakistan (TDAP)’s latest monthly report.
However, when the exports are compared to April 2022’s exports, they are slightly decreased by US$6.39 million. In April 2022, Pakistan's exports to China were US$235.21 million.
According to TDAP, on the scale of July-May 2022, Pakistan’s total exports were recorded at US$28,848 million, which is 27.78% more than July-May 2021’s US$22,576 million.
Moreover, Pakistan’s imports from China in May 2022 decreased by 6% to US$14,771.52 million as compared to May 2021 when the exports were recorded as US$15,666.26 million.
 

gelgoog

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The Pakistani government seems to have focused on the power generation and roads projects first. If you look at it most of the coal and nuclear power plants have been built already.

As for Gwadar port I doubt it can have much success until the railroad to it is built. All the railroad projects in CPEC are severely delayed. Even the upgrade of the main railroad from Karachi to Pechawar to double tracked electrified rail, with automatic signaling, which would boost rail speed from 60 kph to 160 kph hasn't been done yet. Let alone the railroad to Gwadar.
Just from the speed difference you can see the difference in cargo hauling capacity the line upgrade would make and that is even if you don't consider doubling the track. If you upgrade those rail lines and modernize port facilities in Karachi then you can use that to boost industry through the most densely populated corridor in Pakistan.

I think the pipeline project which has been signed with Russia to pipe energy inside Pakistan will be more important than the pipelines into China. Because like you guys said the pipeline would be going into Xinjiang, not where the main population centers in China are, so it would be of limited benefit to China.
 
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Rettam Stacf

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The Pakistani government seems to have focused on the power generation and roads projects first. If you look at it most of the coal and nuclear power plants have been built already.

As for Gwadar port I doubt it can have much success until the railroad to it is built. All the railroad projects in CPEC are severely delayed. Even the upgrade of the main railroad from Karachi to Pechawar to double tracked electrified rail, with automatic signaling, which would boost rail speed from 60 kph to 160 kph hasn't been done yet. Let alone the railroad to Gwadar.
Just from the speed difference you can see the difference in cargo hauling capacity the line upgrade would make and that is even if you don't consider doubling the track. If you upgrade those rail lines and modernize port facilities in Karachi then you can use that to boost industry through the most densely populated corridor in Pakistan.

I think the pipeline project which has been signed with Russia to pipe energy inside Pakistan will be more important than the pipelines into China. Because like you guys said the pipeline would be going into Xinjiang, not where the main population centers in China are, so it would be of limited benefit to China.

You highlighted my first point of concern about the CPEC and Pakistan.

Power plants, roads and rails are all infrastructure projects, paid for by foreign loans. None of these directly generate exports to earn foreign reserves. If Pakistan cannot create enough economic and industrialization activities from these enablers, then Pakistan is looking at the same kind of future as Sri Lanka.

Infrastructure is not some magic pill that instantly transform the economy of a country. The host country, better "equipped", still has to work hard and smart to create the economic "miracle" herself.
 

gelgoog

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The rail projects if done right would boost the mechanical industry of Pakistan by themselves. I see no reason why Pakistan could not build the tracks and at least assemble the trains in Pakistan. Pakistan has a large enough iron and stone mining industry that you could try assembling your own mining equipment, making your own machine tools for stone processing, cutting, polishing, etc. So you could export higher value products than just the raw stones. You could also try making vehicles. Motorcycles and cars. You have natural gas deposits and you burn gas. So you could establish licensed production of gas turbines for power generation and export finished products to nations in the Middle East and Central Asia. Then go from there. I do not see what is the problem to be honest.

You already have the light industry, you have the manpower, and natural resources, so heavy industry should be the next step.

If Afghanistan stabilizes eventually you could then export your railway, mining machine, and stone working technology as well as vehicles to Afghanistan. You could export processed raw materials, like stones, to the Middle East. If you build a railway into China, then you can export industrial products to the Central Asian countries in the former USSR.
 
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gelgoog

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The railway will be a lot more important in terms of port development. Air transport only is economically effective for really high end products. Personally I would have made the airport elsewhere, close to a major city. This seems like a waste of money. Unless it is considered a strategic project with mixed commercial/military use it makes no sense.
 

mossen

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Too much focus on infrastructure here, as if a "just build it" mentality can make magic happen. If you want to build a lot, you first need to achieve a high investment share of GDP. The East Asian experience has shown that having a high savings rate is important to avoid imbalances (e.g. large CADs), because that's how you self-finance investment.

That requires all sorts of financial repression to take place, which isn't easy institutionally to do. Very few countries outside of East Asia have managed to keep both savings and investment rates high. If it was easy, more countries would do it.
 
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