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I've been wondering what's the speed of MADL? in the sense Dec 23, 2016
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Operational use of LR-AAMs in aerial combat - Interceptor role
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Blitzo, the difference in our base assumptions is that I see the MSDM system as the outgrowth of existing US technology in missile interception, something that is no longer in its state of infancy, if we can rely on the recent tests of SM-2, SM-3, and SM-6 systems. It is merely an existing technology being applied to a new application, something that is relatively low risk.
You and latenlazy, on the other hand, see MSDM as a completely new capability, which is true, but also as a completely new technology, which is false. The biggest limitation on MSDM, in my opinion, is the range of the system. Since it's designed as a type of active chaff, I have to question how much fuel this type of system can store. It could be a 10 km system or a 22 km system, which makes it somewhat difficult to work with.
The other thing is that this technology is intended as a stopgap until laser missile defenses are mature, and the age of BVR / WVR missile warfare is obsolete. This implies that it will be ready before the late 2020s, which is when the J-20 will be functioning in its prime.
You and latenlazy, on the other hand, see MSDM as a completely new capability, which is true, but also as a completely new technology, which is false. The biggest limitation on MSDM, in my opinion, is the range of the system. Since it's designed as a type of active chaff, I have to question how much fuel this type of system can store. It could be a 10 km system or a 22 km system, which makes it somewhat difficult to work with.
The other thing is that this technology is intended as a stopgap until laser missile defenses are mature, and the age of BVR / WVR missile warfare is obsolete. This implies that it will be ready before the late 2020s, which is when the J-20 will be functioning in its prime.
About E-2D Hawkeye, I just dragged this out.
This is a Chinese estimate of the E-3C's APS-138's peak power: 1 MW. The engines weren't significantly upgraded, in fact engine power actually diminished.
If we extrapolate from the J-11B (assume 24 kw), we get a 1.5 x increase in range over the 11B based on the significantly greater power, and I would guess about a 1.5 increase in range from greater aperture size. Then detection range vs 1 m^2 is an absurd 2812.5 km, or 1588 km vs .1 m^2 targets like the J-20. If we simply calculate based on peak power, instead of increased aperture size, we'd get 675 km or 381 km vs .1 m^2. In either case, the J-20 will have difficulty sneaking up to the E-2D.
This is a Chinese estimate of the E-3C's APS-138's peak power: 1 MW. The engines weren't significantly upgraded, in fact engine power actually diminished.
If we extrapolate from the J-11B (assume 24 kw), we get a 1.5 x increase in range over the 11B based on the significantly greater power, and I would guess about a 1.5 increase in range from greater aperture size. Then detection range vs 1 m^2 is an absurd 2812.5 km, or 1588 km vs .1 m^2 targets like the J-20. If we simply calculate based on peak power, instead of increased aperture size, we'd get 675 km or 381 km vs .1 m^2. In either case, the J-20 will have difficulty sneaking up to the E-2D.