Official Xi Jinping Thought discussion thread

siegecrossbow

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Today I asked CHAD-XI-PT a question on how lessons learned during China’s poverty alleviation can apply to a different environment — inner city America. The answer is thought provoking, to say the least.


Although many good points are raised I fear that DS underestimates the dysfunction of the current Western system. Nonetheless it offers good pointers on how the issue can be tackled under idealized circumstances.
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Despite the title, it's actually a solid piece. Not often that you see this kind of honesty from US sources.

Since the weight of a closed, illiberal system dragged down the Soviet Union, the United States has attributed much of its own resilience to its political system’s ability to recognize problems, propose solutions, and correct course. The painful irony for the
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is that under Xi, China’s opaque polity, in which officials have every incentive to obfuscate rather than admit mistakes, has proved adept at frankly acknowledging many of its weaknesses and taking steps to remedy them—arguably even more adept than the supposedly supple and adaptive American system. China’s rise under Xi is challenging not just American power, but a foundational tenet of America’s open society—that openness to debate and inquiry is the foundation of a self-correcting system.

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, China’s most glaring weaknesses are the side effects of four decades of economic reform. Rapid growth brought wealth and power but also indecision, corruption, and dependence on other countries. However one assesses his leadership, Xi has identified many of China’s vulnerabilities and marshaled the resources to try to make the country more resilient. Beijing’s success in rebuffing Washington’s trade war suggests that Xi’s strategy is working.

And I myself have always subscribed to the idea that resolving problems inevitably creates new problems, and the best you can do is try to ensure the new problems are smaller than the old ones (i.e. dialectic). You don't often see that sort of framing from US sources either—at least politically, if not academically. Someone's read their Hegel, perhaps even Marx.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Despite the title, it's actually a solid piece. Not often that you see this kind of honesty from US sources.



And I myself have always subscribed to the idea that resolving problems inevitably creates new problems, and the best you can do is try to ensure the new problems are smaller than the old ones (i.e. dialectic). You don't often see that sort of framing from US sources either—at least politically, if not academically. Someone's read their Hegel, perhaps even Marx.

The issue is that the ruling class in the West does not have incentive to resolve any of the problems since they are not directly impacted. By allowing for open debate and limited dissent on things like housing, immigration, outsourcing, etc. they have created exit valves for public outrage so they never have to tackle any of these issues at the root level. Which is fine since tackling said problems will dilute the power they have over the rule based order and by extension, the world at large minus the huge hemorrhoid in their ass known as the PRC.
 

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The issue is that the ruling class in the West does not have incentive to resolve any of the problems since they are not directly impacted. By allowing for open debate and limited dissent on things like housing, immigration, outsourcing, etc. they have created exit valves for public outrage so they never have to tackle any of these issues at the root level. Which is fine since tackling said problems will dilute the power they have over the rule based order and by extension, the world at large minus the huge hemorrhoid in their ass known as the PRC.
This is exactly what happened during the Japanese invasion and WW1. China sent labouers to support the Allied war effort and China got nothing in return. To add insult to injury those labouers were left to die and fend for themselves. The west was literally doing nothing while China was invaded and they even were secretly supporting Japan. After WW2 they threw China under the bus again by preventing China from reciving any reparations and rewrite history saying Hirohito was just a powerless figure when he is clearly not.

This could even apply to modern times. China stood with the US against terrorism but when Uyghur Terrorist attacked China the west criticzed China.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Despite the title, it's actually a solid piece. Not often that you see this kind of honesty from US sources.



And I myself have always subscribed to the idea that resolving problems inevitably creates new problems, and the best you can do is try to ensure the new problems are smaller than the old ones (i.e. dialectic). You don't often see that sort of framing from US sources either—at least politically, if not academically. Someone's read their Hegel, perhaps even Marx.
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