New Type98/99 MBT thread

no_name

Colonel
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More close up of the tank.
 
is it just me or does it look sorta vintage looking?

That's mainly because it is rather tall relative to its width and boxy with a lot of protrusions beyond the main shape.

Most of the latest tanks from around the world are shorter relative to their widths and protrusions are nested in nooks or built into the main shape of the tank. A generally sleeker look.
 
The reason the PLA is still using Type 59s is because the lion share of China's defense budget has gone to the Air Force, navy and 2nd artillery missile forces. Do you think all those new fighters, UCAVs, AWACS, FFGs, DDGs, LPDs, subs and missiles are all magicked out of thin air at zero cost?

Without air superiority, even Type 99s are just living targets for enemy planes and helicopters to kill at their leisure. With air superiority, even Type 59s auto win against M1 and K2 burning hulks. Shouldn't be hard to understand.

While I totally agree with the logic it still sucks to be a ground equipment enthusiast and see China still using large numbers of not just bare bones Type 59's, but Type 63 APCs as well. These are tin can death traps not just against airpower but also against infantry with the original RPG-7 or LAW.
 

SpicySichuan

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While I totally agree with the logic it still sucks to be a ground equipment enthusiast and see China still using large numbers of not just bare bones Type 59's, but Type 63 APCs as well. These are tin can death traps not just against airpower but also against infantry with the original RPG-7 or LAW.
I totally see the same problem. If the PLA wants to keep the type 59s and 63s, at least put on a layer of explosive-reactive and side armor. It is like wearing body armor for infantry. For even small details like that, the PLA has failed. There are neither extra armor plates for Type59s and 63s nor kevlar body armor for mechanized infantry.
 

no_name

Colonel
While I totally agree with the logic it still sucks to be a ground equipment enthusiast and see China still using large numbers of not just bare bones Type 59's, but Type 63 APCs as well. These are tin can death traps not just against airpower but also against infantry with the original RPG-7 or LAW.

They will be replaced. But they serve the purpose for training tactics/maneuvers. It's not like an old tin can can't be used for training in the way that new ones can. So in terms of keeping the army in shape they are as good as brand new hardwares, as a major war on Chinese soil is not likely in the near future
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
That's mainly because it is rather tall relative to its width and boxy with a lot of protrusions beyond the main shape.

Most of the latest tanks from around the world are shorter relative to their widths and protrusions are nested in nooks or built into the main shape of the tank. A generally sleeker look.

Yes, exactly.
 

rhino123

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Actually what I am hoping for was that there was a remote weapon system on the tank instead of the manually fired machinegun. China had showcase a number of this type of system and also offer them in the VT-4 tanks for export. Why don't they implement these system to their own tanks. I don't believe the Chinese didn't have the budget to do it.
 
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