New Type98/99 MBT thread


planeman

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PLA has several thousand more MBTs than it needs. It does not need to replace its obscelete Type-59s etc. If anything a better amphibious tank would be a strategic move.
 
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Gollevainen

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NO oneliners!! Im serious, tomnorrow, some heads begun to fall, if this thing continues:nono: :mad: :nono: :mad: :nono:
 

MIGleader

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The amount of C3I the PLA has it not the problem but the overall capability is.
The PLA has been operating with C3i equipment since the early 90s. In general, if the PLA continues to rely on smaller SOF's and rapid reaction units to do the dirty work, coordination is not such a bad problem.

Well have you forgot about cost here.
The type 96 is not very expensive hence the reason it has been one of the few PLA weapons in mass production over recent years.
 

Nethappy

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The PLA has been operating with C3i equipment since the early 90s. In general, if the PLA continues to rely on smaller SOF's and rapid reaction units to do the dirty work, coordination is not such a bad problem.

Yes, but SOF and rapid reaction force is 2 very different thing and both of them need a good C3ISR to do their work properly.

SOF C3ISR is very important because Information is one of there most important asset, bad intelligence can get your SOF wipe out. While good intelligence can allow them to deal some heavy damage.

Rapid reaction need a good C3ISR better then anything, coordination and supprise is one of there most important asset. Raoud reaction units are use to launch a precise, fast, coordinated attack at any weak point in the enemy offence or defence.

The type 96 is not very expensive hence the reason it has been one of the few PLA weapons in mass production over recent years

Yes they type 96 is not very expensive and it been mass producted. Nevertheless it doesn't mean it cheap enough to fully replace the type69's and type 79's.

It a better use of asset to upgrade the type69's and type 79's, however they will not be use as a MBT like in modern term. But more of a direct fire support for mechanised units.
 

jackbh

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I know the engine output for the new ZTZ-99 is 1500hp, but what about the torque output of the engine? Is it around 2000-2500 lbft of torque, or is that too high? How many litters is the engine displacement? From the sources it seemed to be a flat engine.
 

Nethappy

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Hihi .. back. been very busy lately.

Anyway, after working intensively with the type 99 during the past week. I found out the type 99 is actually much more modular that you would believe. in In certain area of the tank there are extra room left out for futher upgrade and some old stop-gap part has been use so the type 99 can enter service much early. There is currenty 4 different upgraded version of the type 99.
 

MIGleader

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Could you specify with each of the four upgraded models, telling us where and how the tank had been upgraded in each model? Im interested in seeing the changes that have been made since 2002.
 

Nethappy

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As far as I know there been at lease one major armor upgrade and reconfiguration, then the rest are just mimor modification and exchange of part with improve design. The infomation i been given has been limited, it just what I need to know to do my job. But I'll try dig more info up.

Nevetheless the PLA seem to be very fuss up about this tank, they done over 400 test with differnet part of the type 99 packaged in different way with differnet level and/or version of intercept technology material, they done over 270 salt fog test alone. I can tell u these testes are expensive to conduct.
 
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Anonymous

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Nethappy said:
some old stop-gap part has been use so the type 99 can enter service much early. There is currenty 4 different upgraded version of the type 99.

wait, why would they do that? do you mean type 98 entered service early and that type 99 is one of the upgraded version of type 98; or do you actually mean what you just said?
 

Nethappy

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wait, why would they do that? do you mean type 98 entered service early and that type 99 is one of the upgraded version of type 98; or do you actually mean what you just said?

I mean what i mean.. the type 99 is not an upgraded type 98 it a whole new tank in some way. As over 70% of the part different from older tank and i believe or 90% after they fully developed it. Dispite some older part were use in some of the earlier type 99 but where soon refited, nevertheless newer part are still develop of the old ones but with bit and piece of new tech but it still improve over all performance. But the question is how much? that i am not dun know.

The Type 99 was developed to be very modular and to be contiuously upgrade or something, and it sure have more bit and peice then any tank the PLA have. The type 99 deal cost more the 3X then any other contact the PLA have had with us so far and it sure have a lot of part then any other tank they have. One good thing is the part from some of the older tank can be use on the type 99 but with a reduce of performance, but this can be a good thing in someway during war or battle.

Bit of information on the Composite armour: The basic of they type 99 composite armour is muti layer of some form of speical rubber sandwiched in between metal plates and reinforced by some kind a ceramic composite or something. Been told by these chinese engineers that it very effective vrs heat and some even claim it immume to it. But am not sure how effect it is.
 
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