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KYli

Major
That's just science. Published data is fair game all the way around.



cite? That would be a violation.
Really, requesting data from China but at the same time denying data to China. If that is so called science, then NASA and the US have a funny way to show it.

Again, the US has no problem if it is in its interest to cooperate with China, restrictions can be sidestepped. Here is an example.
"During China's 2019
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mission, NASA collaborated with China to monitor the moon lander and Yutu 2 rover on the lunar far-side using NASA's
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. NASA was able to do so by getting congressional approval for the specific interaction and sharing data with researchers globally.
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NASA stated:"

It is a scientific experiment not docking. 27 nations have requested cooperation with China space station. 18 nations have been granted. The US has also asked for cooperation with the China space station for scientific experiment which is denied by China.
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Requesting data is not working together or integration. A joint project means integration that’s not just reports that full on the ground inside each other.

Also I think you are conflating ESA with NASA. Despite what you might think the European Union is not a puppet of the US.
 

KYli

Major
The question is NASA has no problem of requesting data from China but refuse to provide any data to China when being asked.

I never mentioned that ESA is a puppet of NASA. I don't know why you would assume that is the case. Making assumption and accusation is not a good habit and impolite. And I have provided an instance when NASA tried to collaborate with China on the China Moon mission. In addition, the US space scientists have requested participation on the China space station to conduct scientific experiment which is denied. Both of these are fact and proven that if NASA is willing to cooperate with China, it can find a way to do so.
 

siegecrossbow

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Virgin Galactic is a sub orbital flight. This means it’s basically back to Allen Shepherd/ Yuri Gagarin. The only practical application here is really “cherry busting”fresh Astronaut cadets. It’s basically the most expensive Roller coaster ride on the planet.
The really impressive bit is to come. That’s not without Commercial but reliant on it.

Not even that. This flight only flew up to 80KM, which is short of the internationally agreed upon boundary for space.
 

panzerfeist1

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KB Arsenal proposed these images yesterday and considering their is a major exhibition coming up hint hint I think more details will follow that it is different from nuklon.

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gadgetcool5

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NASA seeks proposals for commercial space station development​

NASA is seeking proposals for a program to support the development of commercial space stations, even as funding for that effort is in jeopardy in Congress.

NASA published a request for proposals July 12 for its Commercial Low Earth Orbit Development, or CLD, program. The effort,
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, will provide funding for initial studies of commercial space stations that could ultimately be used by NASA and other customers. Proposals are due to the agency Aug. 26.

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avatar1234

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NASA seeks proposals for commercial space station development​

NASA is seeking proposals for a program to support the development of commercial space stations, even as funding for that effort is in jeopardy in Congress.

NASA published a request for proposals July 12 for its Commercial Low Earth Orbit Development, or CLD, program. The effort,
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, will provide funding for initial studies of commercial space stations that could ultimately be used by NASA and other customers. Proposals are due to the agency Aug. 26.

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I don't see a commercial use for a space station happening for decades to come.
There's a reason why pretty much all of the space activity, satellite launches excluded, are government funded.

The only exception might be rich guys like Musk who burn billions chasing their childhood dream. But I wouldn't call even that a commercial, financially sound, endeavour.
 

j17wang

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I don't see a commercial use for a space station happening for decades to come.
There's a reason why pretty much all of the space activity, satellite launches excluded, are government funded.

The only exception might be rich guys like Musk who burn billions chasing their childhood dream. But I wouldn't call even that a commercial, financially sound, endeavour.

The demand for commercial space travel at $50 million a person is clearly there. Previously there was a capacity constraint with not enough launch vehicles which would cannibalize real science missions. With space x, the supply of suborbital vehicles has been solved. Thats why in the next 12 months there will be more space tourists than the previous decades combined.

This is even an opportunity for china, as chinese are banned from space x, virgin galactic, and ISS by the US. Id rather a chinese billionaire blow his money on a space flight then 10 european luxury cars or some condo in NYC.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
A lot of the Science done on ISS has Commercial interest backing and has for decades. Mostly pharma. Yes space tourism is more or less as practical as two weeks in Caesars palace and as pricey as buying a private island home. Yet @avatar1234 you already made a point on how that can change. Satellite systems used to be majority government projects. Today Elon Musk has 1740 satellites of his own 1690 operational. In 2018 there were only 1800 operating satellites. Musk and Starlink alone already shifted that. The NASA game plan on its foundation was to pioneer until private industry has progressed. Today FINALLY it seems to be happening.
 

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