Mystery aircraft 4th August 2025: CCA vs other

tamsen_ikard

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My attempt at combining the previous pic and a J-36 size comparison. It looks similar size to the J-36 but less wide. So, overall not a promising size. If its as big as the J-36 then no point getting two planes of the same size.
 

Tomboy

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My attempt at combining the previous pic and a J-36 size comparison. It looks similar size to the J-36 but less wide. So, overall not a promising size. If its as big as the J-36 then no point getting two planes of the same size.
Slightly larger J-36 sized strike aircraft with only two engines and a deep bay optimised for cruise missiles could mean a lot, J-36's bay is already speculated to be large enough to fit 2 ALBMs and part of it is constrained by closely spaced triple engine setup. This aircraft's engine seems to be widely spaced while being a twin jet hence could allow the main bay to be longer and possibly deeper because no more top intake. Also, because it has 1 less engine the extra space could be allocated to even more fuel and allow an even longer range on top of the advantage of less fuel burn due to less engines.
 

valysre

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If it's variable wing, that implies carrier use, doesn't it? A J-36 and/or J-XX carrier variant could make sense?
If.

Not quite sure why you would think a swing-wing would be a variant of J-36 or J-XDS. I don't think any modern swing-wing aircraft has ever been a variant of some other, fixed-wing aircraft. That would be one hell of a job 'varying' the plane. Lots of internal shuffling would have to happen. It would be simpler to be a stand-alone plane.
 

pokepara

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I say variant, not in the sense of a variant of an existing aircraft in service (like F-35 A/B/C), but a development variant of the prototypes we've seen. Is that so off?
 

valysre

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I say variant, not in the sense of a variant of an existing aircraft in service (like F-35 A/B/C), but a development variant of the prototypes we've seen. Is that so off?
Very much so. A development variant of the aircraft we have seen, made to accommodate a swing-wing would
a) require a repositioning of the engines; the designs seen so far seem to have the engines inconveniently placed exactly where the bar meant to support the pivot of the wings would be placed,
b) a redesign of the wing control surfaces, particularly in the case of the J-36 where the entire trailing edge of the wing is a series of control surfaces,
c) a redesign of the intakes, because S-ducts will likely overlap with the large swinging mechanisms one must install for swing-wings, and
d) reshuffling of the IWB, because after moving the engines and ducts around to fit the hinge mechanisms, the IWB will have been impeded upon.

This is like saying that a cat may be taken as a variant of the dog, if only we change the nature of all the joints, the spine, many of the internal organs, the eyes, the brain, and the fur.

Please cease this nonsense.
 

Deino

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At present I think the most decisive information we need is something that allows us to accurately gauge its size, followed by confirming whether it has a canopy or not.

Everything else -- whether it is some J-36 derivative or whether it is a large aircraft etc -- imo is jumping the gun a little.

Not helped when the Chinese language side seems to be a bit more quiet than one would expect.



I do think people are getting a bit too caught up about the planform of this aircraft. Specifically, the planform is one that could be for anything, and for any size of tactical aircraft. It is as compatible for a higher end UCAV/CCA (say something the length of J-10) or a full blown manned tactical aircraft. That lack of clarity means we will need to await size +/- cockpit confirmation before deriving anything else.


Agreed, and especially your third comment is the one that puzzles me the most!
Why is the "Chinese language side [seems to be] a bit more quiet than one would expect."?
 

xmupzx

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Agreed, and especially your third comment is the one that puzzles me the most!
Why is the "Chinese language side [seems to be] a bit more quiet than one would expect."?
After all, only one blurry pic can be considered real. And this pic lacks discussion significance.
Most people (include people here) are led in the wrong direction about the paper of VG wings by modified fake images.
 

henrik

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My attempt at combining the previous pic and a J-36 size comparison. It looks similar size to the J-36 but less wide. So, overall not a promising size. If its as big as the J-36 then no point getting two planes of the same size.

It looks like a J-36 with just 2 engines. The J-36 with 3 engines is wide and looks weird esthetically.
 
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