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Eventine said:
There is no reason at all for China to open critical markets like medical devices to European vendors when they are prone to the same sanctions happy regime as the US.

If the retaliation is "we'll close our market too," so be it. The less leverage the Europeans have, the better; China should be developing its own market and correcting its own demographics, instead of trying to please the declining Europeans.

Oh, and counter tariff the European electric cars, too. Not that they have any worth buying.
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At this rate about 2 million BMW/MB/Audi will be sold in China. that is big percentage of sales.
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In the first quarter of 2023, total deliveries in China went down by 6.6% compared to Q1 2022, at 195,100 units. It was ahead of archrivals Mercedes (190,000) and Audi (137,315).

Explaining one of the reasons for BMW’s performance in China, Oliver Zipse said during the first quarter earning calls: “The fastest growth in the Chinese market is in the base segment. Unlike here in the Western world, where it’s exactly the other way around.” He went on to specify BMW typically sells cars priced from $51,000 to $145,000 where there are fewer rivals, hence why its position isn’t jeopardized by cheaper vehicles.
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The Western attitude, or rather the Western Elites' attitude towards China is one of envy and transference. They accuse and demonise China of having 'social credit scores' and make up Black Mirror type BS about China because that's what the Western elites want of their own societies and power: they want the level of control that their fantasies about China are all about as opposed to the ground reality.
It's also the reason why the West has a fascination with Hitler and Ghengis Khan, it's because they want to emulate those historical figures and fantasise about possessing and inflicting that level of power and destruction.
 
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