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ZeEa5KPul

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sheogorath said:
Apprently the snitchs are the glowies at Bellingcat. Truly "independent"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646546839045394434
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It makes perfect sense that the US government would entrust its secrets to someone just barely old enough to legally drink, and that this character would then spill those secrets to his group of prospective school shooters. A group in which he is the mature leader, it should be noted. The US is led by a senile man, so it's fitting that it act senile.

Just once, I'd like to be surprised by the news that comes out of America. Something like "Florida Man Solves Millennium Math Problem", just for variety.
 
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luminary said:
Information sharing (Brazil-China-Russia version of five eyes) and Chinese security advisors will be most effective. Lula's military is not fully loyal to him so he needs to do a purge. China might not see enough potential in Brazil to commit to something like that, though.
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CMP said:
Hungary did their own independent purge of NATO sympathizers in their military. A Brazilian purge does not require Chinese "commitment". Just Chinese advice in the form of informal consultations.
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The answer is Huawei. Pretty tough to plan a coup when every phone call you make to the US embassy is monitored.
 
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Germany foreign minister embarks on post-Macron 'damage control' in China trip
April 12, 2023
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German FM visits China amid EU's strategic autonomy debate
April 13, 2023
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In China, Germany's Baerbock says EU on same page as Macron
April 13, 2023
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:oops:

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Before President Trump, the United States and Europe attitudes and policies towards China were more or less the same.

Since then, the United States has changed, but not the Europeans, in regards to their attitudes and policies towards China.

The last article reads like those movie scenes where someone is standing on a rug, and someone pulls that away.

Seems that the United States had deluded themselves that the Europeans were most definitely on the same side when it came to China, when the Europeans were most definitely were not.

European attitudes towards China, were always ambivalent. That has not changed.

What has changed are the Americans, who are no longer ambivalent in regards to China, but hostile.

Americans say to Europe, we need more hostility for China!

China say to Europe, let's do more deals!

The United States got to be real careful here. They could soon quickly find themselves on the wrong side history, if they are not already.

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horse

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Why did Baerbock did not go visit the United States?

First Macron comes to visit China, then Baerbock a foreign minister comes the week after.

If the United States were that important, they should have just gone visit there and saved us from reading all these drama queen articles from mainstream media.

:D
 
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horse said:
Germany foreign minister embarks on post-Macron 'damage control' in China trip
April 12, 2023
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German FM visits China amid EU's strategic autonomy debate
April 13, 2023
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In China, Germany's Baerbock says EU on same page as Macron
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:oops:

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Before President Trump, the United States and Europe attitudes and policies towards China were more or less the same.

Since then, the United States has changed, but not the Europeans, in regards to their attitudes and policies towards China.

The last article reads like those movie scenes where someone is standing on a rug, and someone pulls that away.

Seems that the United States had deluded themselves that the Europeans were most definitely on the same side when it came to China, when the Europeans were most definitely were not.

European attitudes towards China, were always ambivalent. That has not changed.

What has changed are the Americans, who are no longer ambivalent in regards to China, but hostile.

Americans say to Europe, we need more hostility for China!

China say to Europe, let's do more deals!

The United States got to be real careful here. They could soon quickly find themselves on the wrong side history, if they are not already.

:cool:
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The western Europeans were all excited with "Biden" and the "adult democrats" won the white house and was hoping for maybe early Obama era level of reasoning/diplomacy but they may now be realizing that US politics has drifted even further right (america first/maga)as a standard.
 
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FriedButter said:
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WAPO claiming they found the leaker identity. They say there is 300 classified documents that WAPO has seen including close up images of the Chinese ballon taken from spy planes.

Supposedly, the leaker is a gun enthusiast in his 20s and is part of a discord group called “Thug Shaker Central” with the username as “OG.”
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Was he helped by the hacker 4chan?
Stryker said:
I must say, for all the dumb crap their politicians spew, the American policy makers (the actual behind the scenes people who formulate their policies) are quite aware and pragmatic. Their analysis on China and the distinction that sets it apart from the rest of the developing world is very on point.
I wouldn't be surprised if they weighed all pros and cons over and over and came to the conclusion that China's growth is just very unique and one of those impossible to achieve odds that no other developing country could reach nor any of the developed countries could contain or halt. Thereby they came to the conclusion that only a kinetic war against China with all their vassals in tow could stop it for good.
The date they planned it was probably around 2020 when China was strong enough to be scary but not strong enough to defeat the US in the Pacific. COVID as a bioweapon was designed to weaken China further before they came to deal the final death blow by direct military action. This could very well sync in with the heightened tensions in 2020 when China put all of her theater commands on high alert believing an attack by the US was imminent, requiring Milley to call either Gen Qu or Gen Wei to say that the US wouldn't launch an attack without informing China beforehand.
I think there were 2 reasons why they couldn't go forward with their plans, first and the most obvious one was they didn't count on the virus spreading and becoming a global pandemic requiring not only the US but all of their vassals along with the rest of the world to focus on dealing with it, including financial grants to their populations and purchasing medical equipments from China. Secondly, the test of FOBS that took place around that time which as per their own assessments "managed to circumnavigate the globe before releasing a Hypersonic vehicle which missed its intended targets by only a couple of metres." These events might have deterred them and gave China crucial time to get even more powerful by building even more J-20s and AWACs, sensors, ballistic and hypersonic missiles etc. Either the genie is out of the bag and they have accepted that they might have missed their chance to take China down forever or they will go back to the drawing board and try again a few years later, remains to be seen.
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They’ll never give up on trying to control China; like a crazy stalker ex, the US once tasted true global hegemony and can never be satiated unless dragged to rehab by the BRICS.


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He probably started with this bestseller -
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I honestly thought the book was a meme; holy cow, it’s actually real!!
And they say China has no soft power!
pmc said:
Lindsay went there for thanking this order of B787. 2018 was very different time as 2017 just happened where MBS put in jail alot of old guards. If there is no strong demand there was no need for this large order of widebody. and demand creation is due covid impact on developed world and increase use of Arabian airspace.
just to put in history. when US president met with Saudi King in 1945 he gave wheel chair and a DC-3 plane. and since that day US aircraft has reliably carried Royal family around the world and made millions of people visit there holy places.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645920609933881346
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dedollarisation has scared the anglos; they’ll do anything to save it even war but Ukraine has proven the Americans lack the pull and courage for such action
horse said:
Germany foreign minister embarks on post-Macron 'damage control' in China trip
April 12, 2023
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German FM visits China amid EU's strategic autonomy debate
April 13, 2023
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In China, Germany's Baerbock says EU on same page as Macron
April 13, 2023
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:oops:

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Before President Trump, the United States and Europe attitudes and policies towards China were more or less the same.

Since then, the United States has changed, but not the Europeans, in regards to their attitudes and policies towards China.

The last article reads like those movie scenes where someone is standing on a rug, and someone pulls that away.

Seems that the United States had deluded themselves that the Europeans were most definitely on the same side when it came to China, when the Europeans were most definitely were not.

European attitudes towards China, were always ambivalent. That has not changed.

What has changed are the Americans, who are no longer ambivalent in regards to China, but hostile.

Americans say to Europe, we need more hostility for China!

China say to Europe, let's do more deals!

The United States got to be real careful here. They could soon quickly find themselves on the wrong side history, if they are not already.

:cool:
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Its pathetic that the only thing the five eyes can offer to the Europeans is “white Anglo supremacy” which is of limited utility to Europeans forced to sanction their trade partners and watch American companies get sanctions waivers and steal market share from Europeans.

The Five eyes finds its strongest supporters amongst the neck beards of the west, fearful of losing the only thing they have going for them: being white or white passing for the wannabe caucasoids of certain ethnicities. Why did Biden just walk past the ethnic Indian British PM? Because even in his dementia state, on a gut level Biden and five eyes supporters only see race, not nation states by their actions want a world of perpetual Anglo American white supremacy.

And look where that’s gotten the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646547752262967296

you can see now why the Anglo Americans are actively sucking up to the saudis now
 
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China needs to be careful when working with Russia from now on. Seriously they are so unbelievably compromised by the US. considering this is info on the CMC, they must have gotten the info from a high level Russian official or something.

Notice how literally every leak is some Russian source. Might be worth assuming that everything told to Russia may be compromised at this point.
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Actually, looking from another perspective, these leaks might confirm to be a lot of BS.

They have been saying weapons could be provided for a while now, but no evidence for months. Now this is the supposed “evidence”, but seemingly still just hearsay
 
FriedButter

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supersnoop said:
Actually, looking from another perspective, these leaks might confirm to be a lot of BS.

They have been saying weapons could be provided for a while now, but no evidence for months. Now this is the supposed “evidence”, but seemingly still just hearsay
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I remember hearing that the leaks say Russia has 97% of their army in Ukraine which is what the Brits say but that number is way to BS. There was also a claim that the casualties figure matches what the Ukrainian government has been saying.
 
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