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alfreddango

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Basically confirmed France will join the BRI later this year.
they're probably gonna sign some MoUs and call it a day. same thing happened in italy and it's not leading anywhere.
these kind of deals used to mean something (and they probably still do in countries like china), but in the west? I dunno, all it takes is one election and everything can be unraveled and walked back
 

siegecrossbow

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Qin Gang been watching classic tv series lately?

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canonicalsadhu

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I don't get the hate for Macron. He is by far the most pro-China EU leader (besides Orban maybe). I watched the press conference of Xi and Macron and Macron was very positive and sincere. He hailed China's role in the Iran-Saudi peace deal, he welcomed the Silk road initiative, he hailed the many economic agreements signed, he stressed the necessity to elevate bilateral relations, he talked about the need for European autonomy, etc.
Of course he brought the Ukraine issue and human rights but not in a condescending tone. I think the meeting went really well.
 

siegecrossbow

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I don't get the hate for Macron. He is by far the most pro-China EU leader (besides Orban maybe). I watched the press conference of Xi and Macron and Macron was very positive and sincere. He hailed China's role in the Iran-Saudi peace deal, he welcomed the Silk road initiative, he hailed the many economic agreements signed, he stressed the necessity to elevate bilateral relations, he talked about the need for European autonomy, etc.
Of course he brought the Ukraine issue and human rights but not in a condescending tone. I think the meeting went really well.

That's because the rest of EU starts from a very, very, very, very, very low base.
 

Lethe

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You may be aware of this, but in any case there are certainly others who are not, that this quote is from a particularly interesting individual, a former US Marine Corps General named Smedley Butler who is one of the most decorated officers in the history of that service, and directly participated in many of America's imperial adventures in the early 20th century, including in China, the Philippines, and throughout the Caribbean and Latin America. He subsequently became a vocal critic of American imperialism and the policies he had helped to implement. His most famous quote is probably this:

I spent 33 years in the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from a second lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents.

The War Nerd podcast recently interviewed Jonathan Katz who has
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Overbom

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Is this big news? Seems big but I worry if it will affect Comac negatively.
Just an assembly plant? No component production, no R&D facility? Given all the rumours this week I expected something more. IMO not impressive

COMAC won't be affected for the simple reason that Airbus airplanes use Western tech IP and components

The one that should be afraid is Boeing
 

solarz

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Surprised people are being so nonchalant about Finland joining NATO. Just an observation that if China made a geopolitical move that was so egregious that it forced non-aligned, to even borderline friendly countries like Indonesia and Malaysia, to rush to the US, Japan, and Aus for security guarantees, (I don't count Philippines since Duterte was the exception rather than the rule) there would be no talk about how its these country's losses that they've antagonized China and are now in its crosshairs. There'd instead be numerous threads dedicated to how much the CPC sucks at PR and diplomacy, and that its time for new blood to run China's foreign policy.

Finland joining NATO from a geopolitical perspective is a loss for Russia and a logical security move for the Finns. You may disagree, but its just interesting so many on here are willing to spin Finland ascension to the alliance as an "elaborate Russian trap" to ruin the country and bolster its own geopolitical standing in the Baltics, when China would never get the luxury of bullish assessments.

First of all, this is the SINO defence forum. People naturally look at things from the Chinese perspective, and from that perspective, Finland joining NATO isn't very newsworthy.

Second, from the Russian perspective, having Finland join NATO is nothing compared to losing Ukraine.
 

sunnymaxi

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Is this big news? Seems big but I worry if it will affect Comac negatively.
its actually good news.

China rapidly moving up in civil aviation supply chain. Airbus deeply involved in China with 4 major centers include assembly lines and many R and D bases.

Chinese aviation market is like a ocean. big enough to accommodate AIRBUS/COMAC even if Boeing come back. still will be more than enough for three big firms.
 
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