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FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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Trying to ask how it doesn't do "x" for a Neural Network ML model is like asking why a calculator doesn't output cannot calculate for dividing 1/0 and outputs inf.

Its just a glorified pattern matcher with a complexity of billions of possible combinations. So, it takes a pattern as input, calculates the output based on each neuron in its network and then generates the output. Its a pure black box. There is no intrinsic meaning to any of internal neuron "weights". The idea here is the more you train with accurate data, the better it will get because it is being optimized with labeled data identified by human experts. It could and most likely will give completely nonsensical answers for many questions, because it doesn't have intrinsic "understanding" of what is being asked.
chatGPT did not output an error message. It output an incorrect answer. The calculator in your example output INF, which is recognized as an error message.

Insisting that Shinzo Abe is still alive, and that a paper that showed he wasn't was actually fake news, is not an error message. It is like typing 1/0 into the calculator and getting 5.
 

Sleepyjam

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Flying beyond the median line does nothing to actually meaningfully defeat Taiwan independence, or promote reunification. Its still international waters according to global norms. If they were really dominant, they will be flying over Taiwan just like Israel flies and Bombs whatever country they want in the middle-east.

Even India had the guts to fire missiles into Pakistan saying they hit "terrorist camps". China doesn't have the guts to hit "Taiwan Independence camps" for example. And they have good reason not to. Because, again, its beneficial for them to keep the tension low and focus on increasing China's GDP and military power.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Exercise around Taiwan helps with training and demoralize the other side through attrition and economic risk. Does India have the guts to invade Pakistan and occupy the whole country(sovereignty status nonstanding)? China‘s goal isn’t to simply bomb some minor location but to reunify with the island of Taiwan. Simply dropping some bombs is easy but it’s far different than permanently occupying Taiwan.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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Flying beyond the median line does nothing to actually meaningfully defeat Taiwan independence, or promote reunification. Its still international waters according to global norms. If they were really dominant, they will be flying over Taiwan just like Israel flies and Bombs whatever country they want in the middle-east.

Even India had the guts to fire missiles into Pakistan saying they hit "terrorist camps". China doesn't have the guts to hit "Taiwan Independence camps" for example. And they have good reason not to. Because, again, its beneficial for them to keep the tension low and focus on increasing China's GDP and military power.
when did India fire missiles into Pakistan deliberately? I only know that India profusely apologized for accidentally firing a single missile into Pakistan that hit nothing, and punished all officers involved as a show of submission.

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The only time India has attempted to strike anything in Pakistan was when it dropped some dumb bombs on a random hilltop in disputed Kashmir that missed, and was documented as having missed and unable to hit anything by foreign media.

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In the process they got a pilot shot down.

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Giant India with 6x population and 10x GDP was utterly humiliated by Pakistan.
 

coolgod

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von der Leyen has shown up in Beijing, she did not come together with Marcon on the presidential jet but rather took a commercial flight.
No one was there at the airport to welcome her.
To be fair Macron wasn't given a really warm welcome either.

Ursula's reception, maybe she won't even get a chair this time :p

 
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tamsen_ikard

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You should not mistake Chinese restraint for weakness, redditor.

Restraint becomes kind of a weakness when it's so beneficial for to be restrained. Then it becomes a handcuff that prevents you from taking action against provocation because you keep thinking, not yet, I need to hold on until I am stronger and my position is more favorable. China's biggest advantage is that it is so intelligent, restrained and thinks long term. But it is also its biggest weakness because everyone thinks they are too afraid to take costly actions.

If China was as unhinged as US for example, they would have banned all rare earth export to any country that bans Chip exports. That would have crippled Chip industry of US and Taiwan. It would have been such a huge action that whole world would have taken notice. It also would have deterred US to pursue more Chip sanctions.

What has China banned in response to all the Huawei bans in Europe and Australia? Did they ban Apple and German cars for example? For being a potential spy tool?

They have been extremely restrained because they cannot take these actions without huge costs to its own economy. and there is a fundamental difference between what US and the west wants and what China wants.

China's goal is to get richer and stronger, not to bring US down. But for US, they are already rich, they are already on top. They just want to bring China down. So, they can take actions that is costly for their economy, hoping that it will cost China more and maybe cause a collapse.

This is the fundamental difference between China and the USSR. China wants its own rise, USSR wanted to bring US down.

This is all very good and intelligent from China. But it is also a weakness in the Taiwan scenario. Because Taiwan and US can keep on Salami slicing all they want and China cannot take strong action without causing problems to their long term goal.

And the commotion with people running around to and from the ROC does nothing meaningful either. Between the two, military drills familiarizing with terrain and enemy tactics is far more useful. It's not that China has lost any deterrent against the West; China never had it. Before, it was seen as pointless to provoke a China that wasn't making the West uncomfortable. But now, things are very different. It's an extremely high-hanging branch for China, or anyone, to disallow a group of people from visiting another group of people unless said country had control over either group. If the Mainland took control of the ROC, that's game over. Rather, we are seeing these interactions between the ROC and Western nations not because China has lost any deterrent or anything, but it is because China has gained too much progress, in its national development, it's tech, it's economy, it's currency use and diplomacy, making the West fear for its future. Because it has no meaningful moves to counter China, it must reach for the lowest hanging fruit for spite, not utility, which is to uselessly visit and invite visits from the ROC officials. This is the temper tantrum; China's response is to make the best out of it and use it as an excuse to normalize more military activity around Taiwan Island.

There is a difference between what is called a success for DPP vs what is a success for China. The Taiwan independence battle is battle of recognition. Taiwan is already de-facto separate from the mainland. But what Taiwan independence crowd really hated was that the west didn't interact with Taiwan on a political level. They wanted recognition from US and the west as a country.

Now they are kind of getting it. Not overtly, but bit by bit. slowly. Now politicians and ministers from western countries are visiting Taiwan as if it is a country. These ministers and official meet Tsai as if She is a president of a country. That is the recognition they seek.

When Tsai gets to visit the US or talk to US leaders, that's a win for them. When Lithuania opens a "Taiwan Representative Office", that'a huge win for them. Cause what is the difference between a "Taiwan representative office" vs a "taiwan embassy"? Very little.

Slowly but surely Taiwan is moving towards de-facto recognition of Taiwan Independence. They will not declare independence but they dont need to if presidents and leaders from US and the west openly visits Taiwan, Taiwan gets to open these representative offices and gets to openly participate in sports as "Taiwan".

They want to become independent without declaring independence. And currently they are succeeding towards moving to that goal step by step.

But China's goal is much harder. They have to actually takeover Taiwan physically. That's a much harder goal than the simple recognition game. So, China hasn't made any progress in their goal while Taiwan has been making a lot of progress in their goal.
 

bobsagget

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Indeed. While a majority of white Americans are in the exploited class with zero mobility by default, the difference is that nearly all non white Americans are automatically put in this same lower class.

Throughout the history of America, it is ironically the formerly enslaved that knew the most about freedom and dared to fight back, whereas the European origin, despite how terrible their conditions were, always followed their leader like ants.
Yes fact is the black community has serious issues which i cannot deny , however what is to be expected after 250 years of slavery and another few hundred of segregation and lynching . My dad was 1 when emitt till was lynched . I am barely 28. Do some math there and it kinda shows its not that far away
 

TK3600

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Slowly but surely Taiwan is moving towards de-facto recognition of Taiwan Independence. They will not declare independence but they dont need to if presidents and leaders from US and the west openly visits Taiwan, Taiwan gets to open these representative offices and gets to openly participate in sports as "Taiwan".

They want to become independent without declaring independence. And currently they are succeeding towards moving to that goal step by step.

But China's goal is much harder. They have to actually takeover Taiwan physically. That's a much harder goal than the simple recognition game. So, China hasn't made any progress in their goal while Taiwan has been making a lot of progress in their goal.
I don't think you know what "de facto" means. Taiwan is "de facto" independent already with its own government, military, and diplomacy. They seek "de jure" independence, in other words independent "in name".

China is looking to end the "de facto" independence. For all they care Taiwan can be like Hong Kong and get "de jure" independence as long as it is de facto part of China.

This means Taiwan is moving toward the name recognition it wants, but China is pressing military action to facilitate future military control. Who is getting the better end of deal?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Restraint becomes kind of a weakness when it's so beneficial for to be restrained. Then it becomes a handcuff that prevents you from taking action against provocation because you keep thinking, not yet, I need to hold on until I am stronger and my position is more favorable. China's biggest advantage is that it is so intelligent, restrained and thinks long term. But it is also its biggest weakness because everyone thinks they are too afraid to take costly actions.

If China was as unhinged as US for example, they would have banned all rare earth export to any country that bans Chip exports. That would have crippled Chip industry of US and Taiwan. It would have been such a huge action that whole world would have taken notice. It also would have deterred US to pursue more Chip sanctions.

What has China banned in response to all the Huawei bans in Europe and Australia? Did they ban Apple and German cars for example? For being a potential spy tool?

They have been extremely restrained because they cannot take these actions without huge costs to its own economy. and there is a fundamental difference between what US and the west wants and what China wants.

China's goal is to get richer and stronger, not to bring US down. But for US, they are already rich, they are already on top. They just want to bring China down. So, they can take actions that is costly for their economy, hoping that it will cost China more and maybe cause a collapse.

This is the fundamental difference between China and the USSR. China wants its own rise, USSR wanted to bring US down.

This is all very good and intelligent from China. But it is also a weakness in the Taiwan scenario. Because Taiwan and US can keep on Salami slicing all they want and China cannot take strong action without causing problems to their long term goal.



There is a difference between what is called a success for DPP vs what is a success for China. The Taiwan independence battle is battle of recognition. Taiwan is already de-facto separate from the mainland. But what Taiwan independence crowd really hated was that the west didn't interact with Taiwan on a political level. They wanted recognition from US and the west as a country.

Now they are kind of getting it. Not overtly, but bit by bit. slowly. Now politicians and ministers from western countries are visiting Taiwan as if it is a country. These ministers and official meet Tsai as if She is a president of a country. That is the recognition they seek.

When Tsai gets to visit the US or talk to US leaders, that's a win for them. When Lithuania opens a "Taiwan Representative Office", that'a huge win for them. Cause what is the difference between a "Taiwan representative office" vs a "taiwan embassy"? Very little.

Slowly but surely Taiwan is moving towards de-facto recognition of Taiwan Independence. They will not declare independence but they dont need to if presidents and leaders from US and the west openly visits Taiwan, Taiwan gets to open these representative offices and gets to openly participate in sports as "Taiwan".

They want to become independent without declaring independence. And currently they are succeeding towards moving to that goal step by step.

But China's goal is much harder. They have to actually takeover Taiwan physically. That's a much harder goal than the simple recognition game. So, China hasn't made any progress in their goal while Taiwan has been making a lot of progress in their goal.
actually, Taiwan doesn't want mere independence. They want both independence and a formal security guarantee like NATO or Japan, to host foreign military bases, and be offered the latest military aid and tech. Not just to be an independent country but a 'normal' independent country.

That is what they really mean by being a 'normal' independent country. They're diplomatically constrained right now. They can't buy the weapons they want freely, they can't make trade deals freely and they can't take diplomatic actions freely. South Korea or Japan don't ask for China's permission when they allow foreigners to station troops there. South Korea and Japan are freely offered the latest military tech. They receive direct production help and technical data. Their rulers go wherever they want with no threats. Yet Taiwan doesn't have any of this. They can't even write "Made in Taiwan" on their products.

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tamsen_ikard

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What does this sentence mean? China is already above the US in both the GDP and military budget in real terms. There is absolutely no reason why you should be comparing their powers in dollars, when China buys everything in yuan, at 20 times lower prices (for the military). The Chinese government controls its corporations, especially military corporations, while those kinds of corporations control the US government. The Chinese government can dictate weapon prices, meanwhile, in the US those corporations dictate astronomical prices instead and rob the US government because they elect politicians and have power and leverage, in China, there is nothing like that. China has cheaper labor and a way more developed industrial capacity, which all contribute to them paying 1 dollar while the US pays 20 dollars for the same equipment for the military in real terms. Not to mention how in the US "military budget" there are all kinds of social, healthcare, and other hidden spendings. Not to mention the base soldier salaries which are way higher, the need for the US to service its hundreds of bases, etc. You, Westerners, need to educate yourself on the concept called "purchasing parity". Nominal terms are toilet paper statistics that only Westerners like you think are important. I thought this was common knowledge in the world by now, but it seems that it isn't, at least in the West. It's not important in the real world.

Well based on China's population they should have 3-4 times US total GDP. Why fight with 12.5K GDP per capita when they can get to 50K GDP per capita in 30 years. When they get so big, do you think US and EU will even dream about sanctioning China? By then China will be economic center of the world.

Where will China's military be in 30 years? Could they have 20+ Carriers? 5000+ stealth fighters? Sure they can with their level of Population and GDP at that time.

So, why fight now when you are still kinda weak when you can be so much stronger.

So, this is the biggest reason for China's current restraint. They get so much more benefits by keeping their head down and focusing on development.



when did India fire missiles into Pakistan deliberately? I only know that India profusely apologized for accidentally firing a single missile into Pakistan that hit nothing, and punished all officers involved as a show of submission.

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The only time India has attempted to strike anything in Pakistan was when it dropped some dumb bombs on a random hilltop in disputed Kashmir that missed, and was documented as having missed and unable to hit anything by foreign media.

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In the process they got a pilot shot down.

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Giant India with 6x population and 10x GDP was utterly humiliated by Pakistan.

I was talking about this Balakot strike. Ofcourse it was embarrassing for India in the end but that didn't matter. By taking action India was able to show that it is unhinged and aggressive enough to strike. It escalated so much that Pakistan was then forced to stop its covert strike against the Indian Army in Kashmir. Now there is no more strikes by Pakistani proxies against India. Instead India is on the offensive in Kashmir by changing into a dictatorship and changed laws to move Hindus into kashmir.

actually, Taiwan doesn't want mere independence. They want both independence and a formal security guarantee like NATO or Japan, to host foreign military bases, and be offered the latest military aid and tech. Not just to be an independent country but a 'normal' independent country.

That is what they really mean by being a 'normal' independent country. They're diplomatically constrained right now. They can't buy the weapons they want freely, they can't make trade deals freely and they can't take diplomatic actions freely. South Korea or Japan don't ask for China's permission when they allow foreigners to station troops there. South Korea and Japan are freely offered the latest military tech. They receive direct production help and technical data. Their rulers go wherever they want with no threats. Yet Taiwan doesn't have any of this. They can't even write "Made in Taiwan" on their products.

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Taiwan is even getting that when Biden talks about defending Taiwan and the US think tank promotes Clarity. Republicans in fact openly want Taiwan Independence. If an aggressive GOP president wins, you bet they might allow Taiwan Representative Office. Congress is so anti-China and Pro-Taiwan, they want to donate weapons to Taiwan instead of just Taiwan buying it. Very soon, GOP might even openly allow Taiwan to go for Nuclear Weapons. Slowly but surely Status quo is changing against China and all they are doing is military exercises. Just not strong enough
 
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