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siegecrossbow

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What else can they do, they can't really punish the US or Taiwan cause any kind of kinetic action will have bad effects on the Chinese Economy. Its still beneficial for China to wait until they get stronger and much bigger than the US in GDP and military budget. So, all they can do is throw temper tantrums and do military drills. Its sad but the truth is, US and Taiwan can do all the Salami Slicing that they want and China cannot do anything meaningful to hit back.

Its obvious that China has lost all deterrence against western countries increasing contact with Taiwan. German ministers are openly visiting Taiwan now. European delegation from various countries now visit Taiwan every week, almost like pilgrimage.

China has not been able to punish any of these actions because they know the relationship with the west is already bad and getting worse and they don't want it get even more bad.

I guess brokering a truce between Saudi Arabia and Iran and basically upturning the situation in the Middle East, visiting Russia, getting Global South to ditch the dollar, getting OPEC to cut oil/gas production during rate hike etc. is doing nothing and a low profile visit by renegade province is the epitome of acoomplishments?
 

tamsen_ikard

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Where is the median line except on fictional maps ROCMOD releases?

Flying beyond the median line does nothing to actually meaningfully defeat Taiwan independence, or promote reunification. Its still international waters according to global norms. If they were really dominant, they will be flying over Taiwan just like Israel flies and Bombs whatever country they want in the middle-east.

Even India had the guts to fire missiles into Pakistan saying they hit "terrorist camps". China doesn't have the guts to hit "Taiwan Independence camps" for example. And they have good reason not to. Because, again, its beneficial for them to keep the tension low and focus on increasing China's GDP and military power.
 

broadsword

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If it's knowledge cutoff is 2021, then how come it doesn't reply "that information is beyond the scope of my program"? I mean it provides that reply for so many other things.

When did Shinzo Abe die?



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Shinzo Abe, the former Prime Minister of Japan, has not died. As of my knowledge cutoff of September 2021 and based on a quick search, he is still alive. His most recent public appearance was in June 2021, where he gave a speech at an event in Tokyo.
 

Stierlitz

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What else can they do, they can't really punish the US or Taiwan cause any kind of kinetic action will have bad effects on the Chinese Economy. Its still beneficial for China to wait until they get stronger and much bigger than the US in GDP and military budget. So, all they can do is throw temper tantrums and do military drills. Its sad but the truth is, US and Taiwan can do all the Salami Slicing that they want and China cannot do anything meaningful to hit back.

Its obvious that China has lost all deterrence against western countries increasing contact with Taiwan. German ministers are openly visiting Taiwan now. European delegation from various countries now visit Taiwan every week, almost like pilgrimage.

China has not been able to punish any of these actions because they know the relationship with the west is already bad and getting worse and they don't want it get even more bad.
You should not mistake Chinese restraint for weakness, redditor.
 

Stryker

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Whatever Manhattan projects the Chinese academy of sciences are cooking up, they’ll need all the minds and expertise from all the returning sea turtles.


Explains why the anglos have been so unhinged lately. They’re facing a future where they’re being white and Anglo is not gonna confer any advantages in the global marketplace. They divided the world into the five eyes, the white western golden billion against the rest and this is the result.


Demographics that could be resolved by importing more Africans and Indians…..

That’s what happens when the ruling class are compromised by WEF and Anglo American monied interests.

Mr Trump…this is what happens when you don’t have your own brownshirts and paramilitary ex special forces MAGA battalion to force the police and establishment to back down.
As Mao once said apocryphally, “power comes out of the barrel of the gun”
Enjoy 134 years of "Freedumb & Democrazy" in an American Supermax ya racist bioweapon unleashing maniac. Would have been great to see that warmonger John Bolton and fat bastard (not anymore) Pompeo playing cards with their former boss in the same prison but naah they're part of the neocon deep state gang and they have taken the decision to meet their fate at the tip of a Hypersonic DongFeng.
 

manqiangrexue

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Flying beyond the median line does nothing to actually meaningfully defeat Taiwan independence, or promote reunification. Its still international waters according to global norms.
And the commotion with people running around to and from the ROC does nothing meaningful either. Between the two, military drills familiarizing with terrain and enemy tactics is far more useful. It's not that China has lost any deterrent against the West; China never had it. Before, it was seen as pointless to provoke a China that wasn't making the West uncomfortable. But now, things are very different. It's an extremely high-hanging branch for China, or anyone, to disallow a group of people from visiting another group of people unless said country had control over either group. If the Mainland took control of the ROC, that's game over. Rather, we are seeing these interactions between the ROC and Western nations not because China has lost any deterrent or anything, but it is because China has gained too much progress, in its national development, it's tech, it's economy, it's currency use and diplomacy, making the West fear for its future. Because it has no meaningful moves to counter China, it must reach for the lowest hanging fruit for spite, not utility, which is to uselessly visit and invite visits from the ROC officials. This is the temper tantrum; China's response is to make the best out of it and use it as an excuse to normalize more military activity around Taiwan Island.
 
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