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luminary

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The Chinese Foreign Ministry released a report on Monday further unveiling the facade of American democracy, ahead of the second "Summit for Democracy" on March 29 and 30.

The report, titled "The State of Democracy in the United States: 2022," presents a complete and real picture of American democracy over the year - not only revealing American democracy in chaos at home but also presenting the havoc and disaster the US has brought by peddling and imposing its democracy around the world.

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China's expose was a reply to the USA's
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, released the same day. It's apparently tradition for the US to publish these kinds of annual reports on "problematic states".

Washington's so-called human rights reports have been published for nearly 50 years, according to the US Department of State. Countries listed by the US as "unfriendly countries" and competitors are often on the list, while the "friends" of the US have almost never been on it, experts pointed out.

Particularly ironic is that the US released the human rights reports on the 20th anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq.
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"It is impolite not to reciprocate." Wang said, after the release of The State of Democracy in the United States: 2022. "While the US is keen on finding problems for other countries, China's report helps the world recognize the US' real face."
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Please note that Ukraine had a particularly damning
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in 2021. The 2022 Ukraine report is conspicuously shorter. Rather,
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Mexico was a particular target: according to the report, Mexico is rife with extrajudicial homicides, forced disappearances and arbitrary arrests, among other irregularities.

"They are lying. With all due respect, it is their nature," AMLO said in response. "The United States does not want to abandon its Monroe Doctrine and continues to cast itself as 'the government of the world,'"
 
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LOL
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Funny enough, India has always been pretty vindictive but thankfully China has never really entertained the idea of petty attacks against Indians whether abroad or within China. In a sense, once something like this happens, it makes it easier for India to focus their venom against that adversary and it allows China to walk away without hindrance. It also marvels me as to how stupid the UK is right now, I wonder if they seriously want to get destroyed or something given how childish they have finally become, it’s like they lost their ability to do states craft. Really, the trifecta of Boris, Truss and Sunak really screwed the UK over and if they keep it up, they might become the First Nation to have a taste of what the Poseidon can do which really this is something that shouldn’t be done but some people are too stupid to live
 
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Bold of you to assume these anti Natalist narcissists have any sort of care towards their own children. Best thing would be for them to have all their money, gold and wealth in China as well as their children in Chinese boarding schools learning to become good stewards of the anglosphere under Chinese tutelage

Looks like the CIA has already started using deepfakes for propaganda
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637969448958132226

meanwhile in the anglosphere, the Uighur Muslim loving anglos don’t bat an eye when they’re setting their own muslims on fire
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Will they send their kids to the streets of SupaPowa where their orifices will be involuntarily expanded if it means saving their own skin?
 
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gullible

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guys, any hint zelesnki is willing to talk of a peace deal with russia brokered by china?
is it true that zelenski's recent speech is echoing usa's blinken remark that peace will have given time for the russian to replenish her stocks to attack ukraine again?
 
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Biscuits

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Yeah I know where it is. Northwest of Incheon, where a major ROKN naval base is. I have never said that the ROKN will go into the Bohai Sea. The US should be commanding them to block any PLAN naval vessels in the Bohai Sea from exiting the Bohai Sea, and then going south to link up with the rest of the PLAN in the other seas. Plus, with the long-ranged missiles in their arsenal, the US will be more than tempted to command the ROKN to fire at Chinese coastal targets. Remember that I emphasize US command. I'll get back to it below.


This is not what SK would do on its own. It is not even in their interest to fight a dumb losing battle with China. But, it is highly likely that the ROKN will be placed under the command of the USN 7th Fleet Naval Command in Yokosuka, Japan. Why? Isn't it already obvious that SK is not a sovereign country? It is a vassal state of the US along with Japan. Even someone as progressive as Moon couldn't steer SK out of this situation. The SK population is already knee-deep in submitting to the US. Then came Yoon, who is already accelerating SK's submission to the US, undoing years of Moon's work. Yet the general SK populace appears to be more than happy with this development. SK have submitted their armed forces under US command before in the Korean War. Why would they not do the same again in a future US war with China?

Do you think the US would give a damn if thousands of South Korean sailors go under the sea? Do you think the US cares if China retaliates and burns Seoul and Incheon? SK is also rabidly anti-China, and the US is giving them a 'divine war' to bring China down. Can we trust SK to grow a spine and defy US orders?


I don't see this as likely. If the ROKN is pulled to Guam, that leaves Seoul and the rest of South Korea badly underdefended from the seas. The ROKN will be badly needed to defend Seoul, Incheon, and the South Korean homeland from Chinese retaliatory strikes and possible North Korean coastal raids. The USN would also want to use the ROKN as a vanguard force to hit PLAN forces in the northern ECS.


Unless the Hyunmoo-4 was launched from the ECS. It'll be too near to be interpreted as a Trident missile. Besides, the ROKN have Hyunmoo-3 cruise missiles which I think will form the bulk of their land attack option. Hyunmoo-3 strikes should be expected to compliment the larger-scale cruise missile attacks by the US on the Chinese coast.


I don't know how long SK will survive in a war with China. But we should expect them to at least give a decent fight. Even after their airforce and navy has been decimated. Any war with China for them is gonna be treated as existential, because of their identity crisis.

The ground war with SK, I suspect will be grueling, because they have in place a long-running conscription and military-readiness system. They also happen to have one of the most racist, hate-filled populace in Asia. We should remember that SK troops have done some ugly things in the Korean War and the Vietnam War. They ultimately cannot prevail against China + North Korea, but we should not underestimate their ability to fight.
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You don't seem to understand where Incheon is then. Screenshot_20230322_092333.jpg
From if you draw a line from Jeju to Shanghai, everything within can get hit by even Chinese old gen anti ship and cruise missiles.

So what is the point of "commanding ROKN forces at Incheon to blockade any Chinese forces from coming out of the Bohai sea"? You might as well say "China will command forces stationed at Solomon islands to blockade all US navy coming from Hawaii".

Incheon is not defensible. It's not "north Korean coastal raids" they're going to fear, it's mass bombardment by NK and precision strike (likely in numerically no less terms than what NK brings) by China, followed by all out land assault.

Busan is probably the safest area in SK and it is still not safe from strikes.

From anywhere around the Bohai on the CN/NK side, DF17s can hit all of SK. This means you can't even base a ship in a SK harbor for longer times as it'll get striked by non interceptable.

SK ground forces might be as fanatical as NK ones, but if Seoul participates in an invasion of China, it'll not just be NK hitting them, but they'll be surrounded by Chinese strike options and if not Russian direct participation, then at least Russian ISR assets freely flying over "international" airspace and lighting them up.

It'll by no means be a trivial fight because of their fanaticism, but China has a ton of North Korean bodies, and with cut supply and destroyed infrastructure, the odds are very heavily stacked against long term SK survival.

Of course America in the event of SK agreeing to an attack on China would take over the command, but they would still need to use their pawns smartly, and that means keeping them at most around Busan and the Tsushima straits.
 
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