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ansy1968

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"For example, NATO could engage in Ukraine, potentially obliterating Russia’s struggling military starting a nuclear war..." This article is written by Mitt Romney, a senator in US, these people in power are damn delusional if they expect that they can act unilaterally against their opponent without them responding in return, and the attitude of forcing countries to choose side isn't going to work, it might also backfire and cause US to more isolated as a result. These people must be removed from off their position, their brazen and wishful thinking shows that they are incapable at their job and will likely cause a catastrophe as a result.
@Coalescence and @daifo don't interrupt your enemy when he or she are making mistake, and among the so called Collective West, only the 5 eyes Anglo Saxon bloc are the fervent supporters, the rest are the unwilling. Europe may opt out with high inflation hitting the population and Biden may not last his term as the republican may win big in the midterms and may initiate impeachment procedure against him.

So what about Asia, SK and Japan can't stand each other, and the US is using China threat to form a united front, can it succeed, In the short term both country are trying to maximize their economic advantage especially IF China was block from western market, BUT aside from semiconductors what other sectors do they still hold against China, both countries are under siege in shipbuilding and EV production to name a few (which employs a lot of workers). Can the promise of united front mitigate or reverse the trend? My opinion is a straight NO, innovation is the key, China already posses the necessary tech that can see them thru and the foundation is there to create more. Aside from having its own huge market, the So called Collective West consumers are having a hard time with high cost of everyday living affecting their purchasing power. So both may have a rethink when Washington DC can't deliver and I think they will be by the 3rd quarter of this year, when Russia ends the Ukraine campaign with a victory and a huge economic retaliation of their owned.
 

Strangelove

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The lines are drawn... expanded BRICS plus SCO vs expanded NATO.


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BRICS will welcome new members, to better represent voices of emerging market economies: experts

By GT staff reporters Published: May 21, 2022 03:21 PM Updated: May 21, 2022 03:10 PM

The BRICS should be open to influential countries that better represent the voices of the emerging market economies in the world, and it will allow the organization to become stronger and more united. A more robust BRICS will also serve the purpose of deflecting the efforts of some countries to intensify world turbulence, observers said after government ministers backed BRICS expansion.

Agreements on the countries that will be able to join the organization can only be made after thorough discussions and procedure among BRICS members, Chinese experts said, adding that current G20 members who are interested in joining the BRICS can be prioritized, and Indonesia and other emerging economies could be likely candidates.

"China proposes to study the standards and procedures for BRICS expansion, to gradually form a consensus," Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said during an online meeting of the foreign ministers of the BRICS.

According to the joint statement released by the ministers, they supported promoting discussions among BRICS members on the expansion process, and they agreed to further clarify the guiding principles, the standards, criteria and procedures for this expansion process.

Including new members within the organization could better underpin the organization's positive role in addressing international affairs and offset negative impact of some countries' attempt to intensity geopolitical confrontation and reverse globalization through forming political blocs, Song Guoyou, deputy director of the Center for American Studies, Fudan University told the Global Times on Saturday.

A BRICS expansion could also lay a foundation for the organization to stay strong among different international groups and in the face of a turbulent world order, a Beijing-based international affairs expert told the Global Times on condition of anonymity.

As for which countries can be considered to enter the organization, the expert said it will be decided after detailed procedures and discussion among the current BRICS member countries, the expert said, noting that "Each country may have its preference of supporting different new members, and eventually BRICS will reach a compromised agreement through coordination and dialogue."

The five-country BRICS initially formed in 2009 now includes China, Brazil, Russia, India, and South Africa which joined in 2010.

Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of International Affairs at the Renmin University of China, suggested in an interview with the Global Times on Saturday that countries that belong to G20 members and are also interested in joining the BRICS can be firstly considered.

Indonesia, for instance, as a strong representative of emerging market economies and the biggest Muslim country, is likely to be a potential candidate, Wang noted.

Moreover, Argentina, one of G20 nations, has already expressed its willingness of moving toward ever closer coordination with the BRICS countries, media reports said.

As the purpose of including new members is to strengthen the organization, candidates that may potentially weaken or split the organization will definitely be ruled out, according to the experts.

Wang Wenbin, a spokesperson from the Chinese foreign ministry said that the strength of BRICS lies in its diversity and representation. BRICS members hope to deepen cooperation with other emerging markets and developing countries, and they also expect the appeal of the BRICS to increase.

A "BRICS Plus" consultation was held on Friday evening as part of the virtual BRICS Foreign Ministers' meeting. Foreign ministers or their representatives from Argentina, Egypt, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Nigeria, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Senegal and Thailand participated.

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Overbom

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The lines are drawn... expanded BRICS plus SCO vs expanded NATO.


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BRICS will welcome new members, to better represent voices of emerging market economies: experts

By GT staff reporters Published: May 21, 2022 03:21 PM Updated: May 21, 2022 03:10 PM

The BRICS should be open to influential countries that better represent the voices of the emerging market economies in the world, and it will allow the organization to become stronger and more united. A more robust BRICS will also serve the purpose of deflecting the efforts of some countries to intensify world turbulence, observers said after government ministers backed BRICS expansion.

Agreements on the countries that will be able to join the organization can only be made after thorough discussions and procedure among BRICS members, Chinese experts said, adding that current G20 members who are interested in joining the BRICS can be prioritized, and Indonesia and other emerging economies could be likely candidates.

"China proposes to study the standards and procedures for BRICS expansion, to gradually form a consensus," Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said during an online meeting of the foreign ministers of the BRICS.

According to the joint statement released by the ministers, they supported promoting discussions among BRICS members on the expansion process, and they agreed to further clarify the guiding principles, the standards, criteria and procedures for this expansion process.

Including new members within the organization could better underpin the organization's positive role in addressing international affairs and offset negative impact of some countries' attempt to intensity geopolitical confrontation and reverse globalization through forming political blocs, Song Guoyou, deputy director of the Center for American Studies, Fudan University told the Global Times on Saturday.

A BRICS expansion could also lay a foundation for the organization to stay strong among different international groups and in the face of a turbulent world order, a Beijing-based international affairs expert told the Global Times on condition of anonymity.

As for which countries can be considered to enter the organization, the expert said it will be decided after detailed procedures and discussion among the current BRICS member countries, the expert said, noting that "Each country may have its preference of supporting different new members, and eventually BRICS will reach a compromised agreement through coordination and dialogue."

The five-country BRICS initially formed in 2009 now includes China, Brazil, Russia, India, and South Africa which joined in 2010.

Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of International Affairs at the Renmin University of China, suggested in an interview with the Global Times on Saturday that countries that belong to G20 members and are also interested in joining the BRICS can be firstly considered.

Indonesia, for instance, as a strong representative of emerging market economies and the biggest Muslim country, is likely to be a potential candidate, Wang noted.

Moreover, Argentina, one of G20 nations, has already expressed its willingness of moving toward ever closer coordination with the BRICS countries, media reports said.

As the purpose of including new members is to strengthen the organization, candidates that may potentially weaken or split the organization will definitely be ruled out, according to the experts.

Wang Wenbin, a spokesperson from the Chinese foreign ministry said that the strength of BRICS lies in its diversity and representation. BRICS members hope to deepen cooperation with other emerging markets and developing countries, and they also expect the appeal of the BRICS to increase.

A "BRICS Plus" consultation was held on Friday evening as part of the virtual BRICS Foreign Ministers' meeting. Foreign ministers or their representatives from Argentina, Egypt, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Nigeria, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Senegal and Thailand participated.

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Indonesia, Argentina, and Saudi Arabia should be the first.

Indonesia representing ASEAN
Argentina (+ Brazil) representing South America
Saudi Arabia representing the Middle East

At a later stage, we can then proceed with Egypt, Kazakhstan, Bangladesh, Vietnam/Turkey (debatable) and others
 

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"For example, NATO could engage in Ukraine, potentially obliterating Russia’s struggling military. Further, we could confront China and every other nation with a choice much like that George W. Bush gave the world after Sept. 11: You are either with us, or you are with Russia — you cannot be with both."


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There might come a time where American Fascism (i.e. neoconservatism/neoliberalism) needs to be defeated just like German Fascism (i.e. nationalsocialism) once was. I hope the American people can take back their country before their far-right nutjob leaders and wannabe rulers of earth, kick off something everything on earth will regret.
 

henrik

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What is the point having India in BRICS, when it is at the same time in QUAD, with only purpose to destroy China, one of BRICS country? It is like Poland was at the same time in NATO and Warsaw pact lol.
India will get smart soon.
 

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"For example, NATO could engage in Ukraine, potentially obliterating Russia’s struggling military. Further, we could confront China and every other nation with a choice much like that George W. Bush gave the world after Sept. 11: You are either with us, or you are with Russia — you cannot be with both."


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