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Helius

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Another pipeline to Europe has been shut down. This time by Russia. The gas taps for Yamal (Polish section) has been turned off. Ukraine has closed the Eastern Soyuz pipeline but the Northern Soyuz pipeline continues.


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So Poland is completely f**ked unless the Germans figure out how to reverse the gas they still get from Transgas and somehow plug that into JAGAL and then somehow feed it back into Polish Yamal/JAMAL... Yeesh.
 

gelgoog

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Yamal pipeline has mostly been operating in reverse flow from Germany to Poland anyways. The Germans can get Russian gas from Transgas or NordStream pipeline and send it to Poland. If they have any spare to send. But so much for the German plan to "become independent" of Russian gas by filling their gas storage until Fall and expectation that Russia will collapse from Europe not buying gas from Russia until Spring comes. Yep. Great plan Germans. Not that it would ever work but. But with the southern Ukrainian pipeline and now Yamal pipeline shut down even the prospect of filling the storage until then becomes ever more of a mirage.

From what I understand the Polish gas operator got sanctioned by the Russian government this week after Poland confiscated a Polish gas distribution company owned by Russian gas company Novatek. Since the Polish gas operator partly owns the Yamal pipeline segment over Poland now Gazprom can't sell gas through it anymore or make gas transit payments to said Polish operator. Good job Poles.
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Poland basically sanctioned Novatek, preventing them from getting gas to deliver to customers, then seized their assets claiming they were failing their contract, and essentially gave their assets to the Polish gas operator. Bye bye Poland.

Oh and if Germany expects to stop buying Russian gas from Fall to Spring, and then expects the Russians to come crawling back to them, well, don't be surprised if the Russians then decide not to renew your contract either. Regardless of how much you pay. The Russians are sticklers for contracts, but if you think they have a mercantilism mindset, well, they don't, and they HATE swindlers. And Stalin didn't continue sending oil to Hitler when he attacked via Ukraine either.
 
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Abominable

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Yamal pipeline has mostly been operating in reverse flow from Germany to Poland anyways. The Germans can get Russian gas from Transgas or NordStream pipeline and send it to Poland. If they have any spare to send. But so much for the German plan to "become independent" of Russian gas by filling their gas storage until Fall and expectation that Russia will collapse from Europe not buying gas from Russia until Spring comes. Yep. Great plan Germans. Not that it would ever work but. But with the southern Ukrainian pipeline and now Yamal pipeline shut down even the prospect of filling the storage until then becomes ever more of a mirage.

From what I understand the Polish gas operator got sanctioned by the Russian government this week after Poland confiscated a Polish gas distribution company owned by Russian gas company Novatek. Since the Polish gas operator partly owns the Yamal pipeline segment over Poland now Gazprom can't sell gas through it anymore or make gas transit payments to said Polish operator. Good job Poles.
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Poland basically sanctioned Novatek, preventing them from getting gas to deliver to customers, then seized their assets claiming they were failing their contract, and essentially gave their assets to the Polish gas operator. Bye bye Poland.

Oh and if Germany expects to stop buying Russian gas from Fall to Spring, and then expects the Russians to come crawling back to them, well, don't be surprised if the Russians then decide not to renew your contract either. Regardless of how much you pay. The Russians are sticklers for contracts, but if you think they have a mercantilism mindset, well, they don't, and they HATE swindlers. And Stalin didn't continue sending oil to Hitler when he attacked via Ukraine either.
What's the price difference between gas sold to Germany and Poland?
 

supercat

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Shireen Abu Akleh was a famous journalist who was killed by an Israeli sniper yesterday. Here is a brief tribute:

Western media's hypocrisy stinks to high heaven:


Western media's shameful pro-Israel stance:


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getready

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Shireen Abu Akleh was a famous journalist who was killed by an Israeli sniper yesterday. Here is a brief tribute:

Western media's hypocrisy stinks to high heaven:


Western media's shameful pro-Israel stance:


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There was a tweet showing the various headlines of reports by western papers. It was so obvious how they try their darnest to avoid using the words israel, kill and deliberate, in the title. Quite incredulous to see it so blatantly. If this was Ukraine journalist by Russian it would be totally different treatment
 
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