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Another vomit-inducing article by Asia Times. Its standards are going downhill

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Among hundreds of idiotic points, here are some examples:
Nevertheless, it would outrage Americans to find Beijing attempting to blackmail the United States over climate change: Stop selling arms to Taiwan and cease criticizing China over cybertheft, Hong Kong and Xinjiang, or we’ll continue poisoning the earth.
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Bla bla. The US wants to destroy China, and if not for having nuclear weapons, the US would have already nuked it. Btw, nobody cares if it "outrages Americans". The moment the US declared China its enemy, is the moment that China stopped caring about Americans' outrage

This would both deepen US enmity toward the PRC government and postpone any possible recovery in the bilateral relationship.
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US already want to destroy China. What more US enmity exists that it is worth it for China to care?..
"Postpone" improvement in relations is hilarious, see Taiwan name change. Nothing to discuss here. As a response, Global Times already came out and released just some points short of a declaration of unification with Taiwan

Why should the United States take an economic hit for the good of the world, some Americans will ask, when China cancels out these gains while enjoying unrestricted economic growth?
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And what is the US going to do about it? Trade War 2? Lol. The US is welcome to try again its Trumpian (now becoming Biden's) idiotic policies.

Plus China already has a credible roadmap for reducing emmisions, while the US only has some executive orders which will be shredded *when* Trump comes to power again

It is lamentable, however, that although both Washington and Beijing express willingness in principle to cooperate on common issues, they seemingly cannot move expeditiously to meet the most compelling common issue of our time.
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What "most compelling" bs
China number 1 priority is surviving US siege. In contrast to this, climate change is far far lower to its priority list

As I said, China will follow its own roadmap for climate and wants to cooperate with other countries. However when a certain hegemon (cough) US (cough) wants to destroy China then climate "cooperation" is thrown out of the window and straight to the garbage bin.

Another trash Asia Times "article", more like propaganda..
 
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The China-Indonesia-Aust triangle.

Aust is trying to pull Indonesia from China, another fail.... Indonesia is firmly committed to BRI and is producing Sinovac under a joint venture; traditionally Indonesia has been non-aligned, yet but it's smart enough to recognise which way the wind is blowing.


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It's about time these Anglo-Saxon countries turn to feel being used and abused by the countries they have long abused and used during the preceding centuries of colonization and exploitation; not to mention their rampant policies of genocide.
 
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Another brilliant rejoinder by a butt hurt American, suggesting that for their humiliation of their own making they suffered in Afghanistan, America must in turn create another failed state to teach Pakistan a lesson. Genius!! Here's my favorite paragraph from the butt hurt piece.

"As Pakistan not only turns away from the United States but, through its Taliban proxies and China, tries to humiliate Washington, a new generation of American strategists, policymakers, and intelligence professionals may reconsider the redlines that have governed bilateral ties since the Truman administration. Bangladesh, after all, split away from Pakistan and is now a stable and moderate country. It is increasingly conceivable that a new generation of U.S. policymakers less trustful of Islamabad and less concerned with Pakistani sensibilities may question whether it would be a U.S. interest for Balochistan to follow suit."

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Another brilliant rejoinder by a butt hurt American, suggesting that for their humiliation of their own making they suffered in Afghanistan, America must in turn create another failed state to teach Pakistan a lesson. Genius!! Here's my favorite paragraph from the butt hurt piece.

"As Pakistan not only turns away from the United States but, through its Taliban proxies and China, tries to humiliate Washington, a new generation of American strategists, policymakers, and intelligence professionals may reconsider the redlines that have governed bilateral ties since the Truman administration. Bangladesh, after all, split away from Pakistan and is now a stable and moderate country. It is increasingly conceivable that a new generation of U.S. policymakers less trustful of Islamabad and less concerned with Pakistani sensibilities may question whether it would be a U.S. interest for Balochistan to follow suit."

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Oh boy, last 10 minutes

A constantly burning region is in the intrests of US and it's ally India

While stability is in the intrests of everyone in the region

Let's see what happens in the future but I concerned for the future

A global power structure in American hand will fully support proxies while through sanctions, fatf etc cripple the country - basically teing down the hands of a man and than beating him up

But this will be very dangerous cause
A- you shouldn't purposely destabilize a nuclear armed country, it's common sense
B- Balochistan can never be Bangladesh cause it will be surrounded by hostile states who fear Baloch independence in thier own country (Kurdish problem)
C- pure geography, it's part of the same Indus river system so it's not as culturally, geographically disimalar to rest of the country as a country thousands of miles away was - only reason insurgency exist is because of Afghanistan like terrion, low population etc

So in the end thier is no end game, fulling the insurgency for the sake of fulling it will for sure destabilize everything in the neighborhood ( because lack of border control and same ethnic people in Iran, Pak, small parts of Afghanistan) but you can never make a country put of it, it's not feasible and Pak isn't pushover, it's in the top 15 millitary powers and meant to defend against a country x7 times it's population

So it's next to impossible for a insurgency to achieve it's goals, all it will do is bring instability
 
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If Biden decides to give increased diplomatic recognition to Taiwan, he risks lighting the touchpaper to war with China

By Tom Fowdy, 13 Sep 2021

Last week Biden called Xi Jinping. My analysis of that event was that it was a political blow to Biden, as he had been pushed into it by Beijing demanding respect and leveraging contact. The political fallout of having that conversation has since been obvious domestically in America.

Just the following day a series of hawkish proposals got leaked to the Financial Times, claiming that the Foreign Minister of Taiwan Joseph Wu was in America for ‘secret’ talks over the potential renaming of Taipei's representative office in the United States (its de facto embassy) to include the name ‘Taiwan’ – a move which the Baltic state of Lithuania pursued earlier this year, drawing the ire of Beijing. The Financial Times article claims that Washington, DC is contemplating a similar move, but the catch is that it would have to be done via an executive order. It’s the president’s choice.

Also on the same day, another proposal was leaked, stating that the administration was seeking to escalate its trade war and tariffs against China. It is likely just noise, but the pattern and timing of these emergence is obvious. These hawkish proposals suddenly hit the press for several reasons: firstly as a face-saving means for the administration so as to not to be seen as ‘soft’ on China; secondly, they were likely leaked by hawkish members of the administration who want to undermine engagement between Washington and Beijing, and hope the radical proposals ‘set the agenda’ and provoke China. Kurt Campbell, Biden’s ‘Asia Tsar’, is undoubtedly one of the suspects here.

It is a typical MO (Modus Operandi) in Washington insider games: to float their agendas in the media and hope to capture the public mood. Such tactics were frequently deployed during the Trump administration, where, despite the White House taking a hard line with China, individuals such as Mike Pompeo, Peter Navarro and Matthew Pottinger all occasionally pushed far more radical proposals via the media.

Thus while these Biden administration proposals may not actually happen, they all go towards illustrating the political constraints and realities the president faces. He has effectively been boxed into a confrontational policy towards Beijing, even if he doesn't want it personally. This makes de-escalation of tensions very difficult.

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Neocons Undermine Biden on China Ties. Brief Media on Taiwan Talks, Beijing Threatens War

By Alexander Mercouris, 13 Sep 2021

 
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This media seems to be one-man show, regardless its "heavy" name, and look at the person-in-charge. I do wonder if there's ever anything positive about China coming out from this media?

Corey Lee Bell attained his PhD from the University of Melbourne’s Asia Institute. His analyses on security and international relations in the region have been published in The National Interest, The Diplomat, ASPI Strategist, The Australian, Taiwan Insight, other magazines/media outlets, and academic publications (i.e., Palgrave). He has lived in Northeast Asia for more than 10 years, much of which has been spent in Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Japan. He has worked with think tanks, scholars and former officials/diplomats in the region, and is currently a researcher based in Taiwan.

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You should see these same white people describe non white people and non white cultures in documentaries, it's like they're studying insects.

In any case, what these whites are doing and yes i will analyse them the way they analyse us, what these whites are doing when they advocate and 'predict' China's collapse, or infertility bubble et al is that they are hoping to manifest this into reality. Going by the Double Slit experiment, the less Chinese there are, the less probable it is that China will develop to intergalactic hegemon whilst the whites hope to maintain hegemony by convincing others of their own divinity.

Finally, i always raise my eyebrow whenever i see a hyphenated surname; it shows who really wears the pants in the relationship and speaks volumes about the level of white worship and slavishness and doomed-to-inceldom that makes up the male she married.
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But folks like this, or Gordon Chang, or another fat Chinese guy wearing glasses working for the US think tank (I completely lost his name right now, less seeing his name in last few years) might have helped doing something really good for China buying her some extra time of 10-15 years to defer the earlier attacks by the Exceptional Country. In that sense Chinese people must be thankful to their services. Words of aliens will not talk a country as big as China down!

“In the face of all kinds of false accusations and disturbance, we need to respond calmly and expose disinformation with facts. But the most important thing is to be determined to do our own things well. If we don’t fall on our own, we won’t be overthrown by anyone.”

~ Li Xiaosi @li_xiaosi - Chinese Ambassador to Austria

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windsclouds2030 said:
If Biden decides to give increased diplomatic recognition to Taiwan, he risks lighting the touchpaper to war with China

By Tom Fowdy, 13 Sep 2021

Last week Biden called Xi Jinping. My analysis of that event was that it was a political blow to Biden, as he had been pushed into it by Beijing demanding respect and leveraging contact. The political fallout of having that conversation has since been obvious domestically in America.

Just the following day a series of hawkish proposals got leaked to the Financial Times, claiming that the Foreign Minister of Taiwan Joseph Wu was in America for ‘secret’ talks over the potential renaming of Taipei's representative office in the United States (its de facto embassy) to include the name ‘Taiwan’ – a move which the Baltic state of Lithuania pursued earlier this year, drawing the ire of Beijing. The Financial Times article claims that Washington, DC is contemplating a similar move, but the catch is that it would have to be done via an executive order. It’s the president’s choice.

Also on the same day, another proposal was leaked, stating that the administration was seeking to escalate its trade war and tariffs against China. It is likely just noise, but the pattern and timing of these emergence is obvious. These hawkish proposals suddenly hit the press for several reasons: firstly as a face-saving means for the administration so as to not to be seen as ‘soft’ on China; secondly, they were likely leaked by hawkish members of the administration who want to undermine engagement between Washington and Beijing, and hope the radical proposals ‘set the agenda’ and provoke China. Kurt Campbell, Biden’s ‘Asia Tsar’, is undoubtedly one of the suspects here.

It is a typical MO (Modus Operandi) in Washington insider games: to float their agendas in the media and hope to capture the public mood. Such tactics were frequently deployed during the Trump administration, where, despite the White House taking a hard line with China, individuals such as Mike Pompeo, Peter Navarro and Matthew Pottinger all occasionally pushed far more radical proposals via the media.

Thus while these Biden administration proposals may not actually happen, they all go towards illustrating the political constraints and realities the president faces. He has effectively been boxed into a confrontational policy towards Beijing, even if he doesn't want it personally. This makes de-escalation of tensions very difficult.

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Neocons Undermine Biden on China Ties. Brief Media on Taiwan Talks, Beijing Threatens War

By Alexander Mercouris, 13 Sep 2021

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Bizarre article. Yes Biden is the bestest China's ally and its only these totally bad China Hawks which are doing this.

Lmao. If the US cant control its own foreign policy with one voice then why even have meaningful conversations with them?

Xi understands this which is why he keeps diplomacy going but anytime something serious comes up he stonewalls them. Who wants to deal with the US which one day says we cooperate and the next day they talk about war with China?
 
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