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Gatekeeper

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Come on guys, @escobar never have any good words to say aboit China as far as I recall. There's always a hidden agenda with China as far as he's concern.

Europeans always amaze me when they are accusing everyone but themselves and their dear "ally" the US, for creating refugees who then come to their countries

"We actually improved the Middle East" lol
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US: "cooperate, compete, confront"
China: "Nice joke, homie!"


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Poetry. Wang Yi has a way with words

Great piece from GT. Wolve warriors indeed. The U.S. always use terms like this to make others look bad. A bit like the "currency manipulator". It's all round bites, but no substance.

02-Sep-2021

Wolves snarl as a final warning before defending themselves


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Chinese Ambassador to the U.S. Qin Gang delivered a keynote speech at the welcome event by the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations Board of Directors, August 31, 2021. /Official website of China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Qin Gang's address as the new Chinese ambassador to the U.S. – a reminder that Washington is dangerously misreading the situation with Beijing – has been mocked as "going full wolf" by a major U.S. political media outlet, another ominous sign for U.S.-China relations for Washington.

In recent years, Chinese diplomats have been taking an increasingly assertive and vocal posture, showing their frustration at U.S. attempts to diminish and isolate Beijing on multiple fronts.

The Trump administration launched a trade war against China in a flagrant breach of WTO rules. It attempted to "decouple" the two economies without any basis in U.S. law. It used state power to undermine competitive, law-abiding Chinese corporations. It supported a violent separatist movement in Hong Kong. It spread toxic disinformation, including that COVID-19 was leaked from a Chinese lab and there is ongoing genocide in Xinjiang.

The Biden administration has doubled down on these provocative policies.
Western pundits have written tens of thousands of words analyzing what might be behind the increasingly forceful language used by Beijing – dubbed "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy after a popular patriotic Chinese action movie.

The answer to this question is not a mystery and not very complex.
Wolves growl and snarl when they are threatened. The increasingly strident protests from Chinese diplomats are warnings that China will forcefully defend itself if its territorial integrity is violated.
Despite an unbroken string of military debacles over the decades dating back to the DPRK and Vietnam, the U.S. still believes that it can resolve international disputes with military power.

Utter and complete failures in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq have not shaken U.S. confidence in the might of its navies to project power anywhere in the world.

This unfounded hubris risks leading the world to disaster.

One important basis of diplomatic relations between China and other countries is their acceptance of the one-China principle. Most nations – 180 out of the 193 UN member states and global institutions including the UN itself – have accepted this principle.

Currently, the Biden administration is leading a charge for nations to go back on this pledge in order to isolate and slow the inevitable rise of China.

The U.S. and Japan are unabashedly forging "diplomatic" ties with Taiwan separatists and hinting at – although notably not promising – military support. The European Union seems intent to follow in these footsteps.

China has been clear and consistent: Taiwan independence means war.
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Rioters break into the Legislative Council building during the anniversary of Hong Kong's return to China, Hong Kong, China, July 1, 2019. /Reuters

Consider the current situation in Xinjiang. Violent separatist terrorists launched a deadly campaign in the northwest China region for years. Deadly terror attacks then started occurring in other parts of China.

This is exactly the kind of violence the U.S. "War on Terror" aimed to combat.
But has the U.S. supported China's efforts to root out radicalism? On the contrary, the U.S. has run a disinformation campaign alleging a Chinese "genocide" in Xinjiang. Against this backdrop, a so-called conference has even been held to discuss the "genocide."

The only proof the U.S. and its allies have presented for this grave charge has been a handful of "witnesses" provided by a separatist group claiming Xinjiang is "rightfully an independent East Turkestan," and a series of papers by a fundamentalist Christian evangelist that equates family planning policies with mass murder.

This shameless disinformation campaign is matched by continued baseless claims that COVID-19 leaked from a lab – an assertion without a single piece of concrete evidence. The lab leak theory has been dismissed by the WHO as well as top scientists, their articles appearing in prestigious journals like Science and Cell. And the American intelligence community, striving to find solid evidence to convict China of leaking the virus, concluded they don't know how SARS-CoV-2 developed after their 90-day labor.
In his address as ambassador to the U.S., Qin Gang urged Washington and Beijing to be clear about each other's bottom lines and show mutual respect, emphasizing that the two sides should remove disturbances in their relationship and focus on cooperation.

After all, the world is facing a global health crisis, and the danger of climate change is becoming more obvious each day as extreme weather events multiply around the world. Even now, record-breaking rainfall from the remnants of Hurricane Ida is thrashing New York City and has already resulted in deaths.

The U.S. would be making a strategic error of historic dimensions if it chooses to ignore China's calls for dialogue and cooperation and its warnings about crossing China's bottom line – using the condescending and ignorant label "Wolf Warrior" diplomacy.

Can you imagine how the U.S. would respond if a country armed and encouraged separatists in several parts of its territory, launched a series of brazen disinformation campaigns supported at the highest levels, and tried to form an international coalition to choke its economy and isolate it diplomatically?
Judging from its wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the answer is obvious. The U.S. would respond more forcefully than any other country facing such an onslaught. But first, it would growl.
 

Overbom

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U.S. climate envoy John Kerry told Chinese leaders that climate change was more important than politics, he said on Thursday, responding to warnings that diplomatic tensions between the two countries could undermine cooperation on cutting emissions.
No. Climate is not more important than politics. US' politics is all about containing and destroying China, so for the CPC leadership that means that nothing is more important than politics. In fact, politics is survival for China.

As such, Mr.Kerry's position about climate change being more important than politics is not shared by China.

If Mr. Kerry wants to show that he is sincere then he ought to go back to the US and tell Biden to drop the recently imposed ban for solar imports from China. Until he does that, then he shouldn't visit China again.
 

taxiya

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Europeans always amaze me when they are accusing everyone but themselves and their dear "ally" the US, for creating refugees who then come to their countries

"We actually improved the Middle East" lol
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Just an observation, this European is not the "real" European (aka westerner) that we usually complain about. This is the westerner-wannabe European. The I-hate-myself-to-the-guts and the I-am-more-westerner-than-westerner European. Only this kind of people will speak such kind of BS that even the real westerners would be so ashamed to say. Why? Because 1. they need to give themselves a comfort reason that they destroyed their own home by following the west. 2. They themselves are refugees, and don't want new refugees to take their share of free food.

It is a guy from Albania, see this
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Here is the Albanian flag. And his user name "Shqipetar" is Albanian in Albanian language.
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horse

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Effective strategy for Vietnam, should be to balance CN and US to extract maximum benefits and never really choose a side until they fight each other with a clear winner. But they also seem to be victim of US PR like many US allies and even adversaries, lol

The more effective strategy for Vietnam is to improve its relationship with China.

If Vietnam improves its relationship with America, what does it get out of that? Not much.

The power disparity at the moment in the region too great. Everyone sees it.

Almost everyone.

The fact is they sent a high ranking official from America to the region, and not the other way around. It is kind of obvious who is courting who.

The other fact is that only two countries in the region wanted to host this high ranking American official.

That speaks volumes.
 

Overbom

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If Vietnam improves its relationship with America, what does it get out of that? Not much.
Vietnam might be looking at America as a security hedge against China as China grows more and more powerful in the military aspect.

This is a legitimate fear that ASEAN countries have and as such it wouldnt surprise me that even if the US doesn't offer anything economically, it would still have a lot of influence due to its military.

Dont forget, there is always a balance. The stronger you get, the more your neighbors close ranks and try to hedge against you. Normal geopolitics, nothing unusual here
 

ZeEa5KPul

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lol, As if US care about "CN sincerity".
It should and it does.
China trying to suggest to US that cooperation in areas such as climate is incompatible with rivalry elsewhere is funny when they are asking India to box border dispute and 'restore normalcy' in overall ties.
I don't see the humour. China treats the US as a peer and rival; India is neither, it is merely an irritant.
 

horse

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Vietnam might be looking at America as a security hedge against China as China grows more and more powerful in the military aspect.

The last time Vietnam did that, establish a defence pact with a third country, they got invaded, while the third party did not lift a finger.

China destroyed everything in sight, and after the fighting was done, the Chinese were in position to march to that northern provincial capital and take it without any resistance.

China would have been in control of all of northern Vietnam, but China declared a ceasefire and left.

Since then, there has been nothing but peace in that region. Peace for China too.
 

Overbom

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The last time Vietnam did that, establish a defence pact with a third country, they got invaded, while the third party did not lift a finger.

China destroyed everything in sight, and after the fighting was done, the Chinese were in position to march to that northern provincial capital and take it without any resistance.

China would have been in control of all of northern Vietnam, but China declared a ceasefire and left.

Since then, there has been nothing but peace in that region. Peace for China too.
The countries have now learned about the pitfalls of making alliances.

Vietnam trying to hedge against China in the military aspect doesn't mean it will ally itself with US. Nowadays countries have more tools to show their good/bad will towards another country. Its part of a delicate dance that SEA countries have mastered.

China knows, SEA knows, US knows but sometimes forgets..

A positive for China is that as being their close neighbor it means that countries in the region cannot antagonise it mindlessly.
Lithuania and other such puppets can do it because they are at the other side of the world, but countries close to China would face a deadly blow if they tried to do the same thing
 
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