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DarkStar

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Just finished listening to the deposed Afghanistan President Ghani making his case and presentation to NATO back in 2018. In this talk he talked positively about his country's forces willingness to defend the country and the supposed readiness of his forces touting his Air Force. We all know what happened to those forces. I think Biden was right to pull out and regardless of what happened the outcome would have been the same if the pullout happened 5 or 20 years from now.

and with that, the anglo white supremacists lost their foothold in central asia and the heartland.
 

james smith esq

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Just finished listening to the deposed Afghanistan President Ghani making his case and presentation to NATO back in 2018. In this talk he talked positively about his country's forces willingness to defend the country and the supposed readiness of his forces touting his Air Force. We all know what happened to those forces. I think Biden was right to pull out and regardless of what happened the outcome would have been the same if the pullout happened 5 or 20 years from now.

He wasn’t deposed; he abdicated!
 

Xizor

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Women had way more rights under Soviet rule. Even after the Taliban was ousted most women in Afghanistan wore veils or some form of facial covering. Exposing legs… are you out of your mind…

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I see their point.
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Right now, the stage is set for another Iran like regime. Instead of Ayotollas, we'd have Taliban electing clerics as Supreme leaders.

Are immunity from US sanctions part of their deal with US? It'd be a big deal if so.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I don't blame him. His family is comfortably living overseas. I blame those Afghanis who supported him. They could've chose someone who has more at stake and deeper ties to Afghanistan. He shouldn't have jumped ships abandoning his land.

Right now, there are reports that Taliban is facing difficulties in having state machinery ( banking, networks, finance, energy etc) run because they don't have anything resembling a degree or good education. This has forced them to call back those who previously used to work in the government. I sense an opportunity for everlasting settlement here.
Well, if you watched the video especially towards the end of the Q&A there was an American female journalist who really capture and encapsulate why America and her cohorts will continue to fail in any future endeavors that involves war with another country. They don't have a real sense of appreciation of any country's historical, cultural, and social structures ensuring that chaos and mayhem follows their Phase III operations. Women's rights and any other western modern societal must not and can't be imposed on a country like Afghanistan within 2 decades what took centuries of struggle to find footing in the west. I mean for f.. K sake, Obama was against Gay marriage up until 2008 and that's not too long ago. The west must really learn how to accept that any changes in society must come from within naturally and avoid the tendency to impose ridiculous timetable upon any country to systematically absorb foreign practices and norms beyond the limits of acceptance for society's like Afghanistan and or China with respect to political openness.

Countries like Afghanistan must be allowed to learn how to crawl before it can walk, and then learn how to walk before it can run. And so I hope that all this talk of sanctions and or not recognizing (from the media pressure and Mic) the Taliban as the legitimate ruling power in Afghanistan must be avoided if America wants to see a stable and relatively peaceful Afghanistan because if it succeeds on making the country a pariah state and largely devoid of any meaningful economic activity then the Taliban will surely revert back to what they know best and that's terrorism. Political monkeys and morons that has dominated American foreign policy circles and military leaders must be purged and be replaced by actual seasoned experts regardless of their political stripes. Real life experience is what's needed and what must count if America wants to remain functional on its current foreign policy.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Just finished listening to the deposed Afghanistan President Ghani making his case and presentation to NATO back in 2018. In this talk he talked positively about his country's forces willingness to defend the country and the supposed readiness of his forces touting his Air Force. We all know what happened to those forces. I think Biden was right to pull out and regardless of what happened the outcome would have been the same if the pullout happened 5 or 20 years from now.


I apologize in advance if anyone finds my analogy crude.

Yes, withdrawing from Afghanistan is necessary. It is similar in a lot of ways to a bodily function called going to the bathroom — both are ugly, can be long and drawn out, are necessary, and above all should be done as discreetly as possible. There is a time and place for emptying your bowels, just like there is a time and place for planning and executing the Afghan withdrawal. What Biden has done is the geopolitical equivalent of a formerly beloved Rockstar taking a massive dump in his pants during his comeback concert performance.
 

Agnus

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Just finished listening to the deposed Afghanistan President Ghani making his case and presentation to NATO back in 2018. In this talk he talked positively about his country's forces willingness to defend the country and the supposed readiness of his forces touting his Air Force. We all know what happened to those forces. I think Biden was right to pull out and regardless of what happened the outcome would have been the same if the pullout happened 5 or 20 years from now.

The choice to pull out was the good choice at the end of the day in the long run. But manner in which it was handled and how rapidly it occurred, will always haunt US credibility and image. I think Biden was too focused on being the guy who managed to pull out and doing it on 20th anniversary of 9/11 for some reason to care about the actual conditions in the region. US competence is being call into question.
 

emblem21

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The choice to pull out was the good choice at the end of the day in the long run. But manner in which it was handled and how rapidly it occurred, will always haunt US credibility and image. I think Biden was too focused on being the guy who managed to pull out and doing it on 20th anniversary of 9/11 for some reason to care about the actual conditions in the region. US competence is being call into question.
There is no way the exit of the USA was going to be good given the amount of money wasted and how little they have accomplished in the country, but the method it was done and basically how they basically left there allies in a similar way they have done so in the past, may prove to be the final straw for any future conflicts that the USA wants to fight in, not many nations (even less now given the amount of shit is now associated with America right now) will want to willing jump with them this time. This whole debacle is just proof that while the Neocons may have money and sheer evil on their side, they lack competence and the lack empathy, both of which that should they fail in there next few moves, they may hanging themselves on the rope that China has sold them in Walmart
 
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