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DarkStar

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I swear every time white people start to live in asia for an extended period of time, they start behaving...atrociously; like they start behaving and acting like colonisers back in the 19th c. and exhibiting incredibly racist behaviour that they wouldn't otherwise exhibit back in their home nations.
What is it, asian pluralism, agreeableness and humaneness which these fucks interpret as them being able to lord over asians?
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
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Global Times makes Jai Hind style boasts all the time. While it is good for trolling Indians, don’t take it too seriously.
Yes, it's probably a little extra but China will have to do something concrete to deter further salami slicing actions on the One China principle by America and her vassals now and in the future, otherwise China is going to look like a barking chihuahua if all it can and will do regarding it's supposed red line is just to issue semi veiled threats that are just simply vacuous words that many will take as a sign of weakness.
 

windsclouds2030

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Wow. That's some threat there. Is there an official warning like this from the Chinese Govt?

Unless the PLAAF has something up its sleeve. The current inventory of PLAAF planes could not fly over Taiwan virtually unchallenged. If any PLAAF planes gets shot down, its war.

I may not agree with this kind of threat coming so soon now. But then again, previous softer methods had not really worked. The US and the DPP continued to salami-slice at China's red line. I can only hope that China knows what's its doing if this threat is official.
It is anticipated that a breakthrough operation by the US and Taiwan islands will be a historic opportunity for the PLA fighter jets to fly over the island of Taiwan. The air over the island of Taiwan will be included in the cruise range of the PLA. The fighters will declare that the land underneath is Chinese territory and will crush all attempts to use the Taiwan question as a bargaining chip with China. If the Taiwan military dares to open fire on the PLA fighters, the large number of missiles aimed at Taiwan's military targets from the mainland and our bomber fleets will make a decisive answer and write history.

If anyone thinks this is a kind of Poker game, then it will be up to each side to call one's bluff. Hopefully we don't need to see such thing.

Btw, better visit the link and read the full article.
 
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Sardaukar20

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It is anticipated that a breakthrough operation by the US and Taiwan islands will be a historic opportunity for the PLA fighter jets to fly over the island of Taiwan. The air over the island of Taiwan will be included in the cruise range of the PLA. The fighters will declare that the land underneath is Chinese territory and will crush all attempts to use the Taiwan question as a bargaining chip with China. If the Taiwan military dares to open fire on the PLA fighters, the large number of missiles aimed at Taiwan's military targets from the mainland and our bomber fleets will make a decisive answer and write history.

If anyone thinks this is a kind of Poker game, then it will up to each side to call one's bluff. Hopefully we don't need to see such thing.

Btw, better visit the link and read the full article.
I've read the whole article. The problem is not whether China is prepared to punish Taiwan for shooting their jets, or whether its justified. The problem is, is now a suitable time to be playing poker with war? I think the Chinese government is more sophisticated and cunning than this. Nevertheless, as @siegecrossbow said. Global Times is kinda like the 'Jai-Hind' of the English-language Chinese media. They are very hawkish. More importantly, that article also says that its an 'opportunity' for the PLAAF to fly jets over Taiwan, not a necessity. Hence, we should take this sort of bravado story with a pinch of salt.
 

plawolf

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I've read the whole article. The problem is not whether China is prepared to punish Taiwan for shooting their jets, or whether its justified. The problem is, is now a suitable time to be playing poker with war? I think the Chinese government is more sophisticated and cunning than this. Nevertheless, as @siegecrossbow said. Global Times is kinda like the 'Jai-Hind' of the English-language Chinese media. They are very hawkish. More importantly, that article also says that its an 'opportunity' for the PLAAF to fly jets over Taiwan, not a necessity. Hence, we should take this sort of bravado story with a pinch of salt.
Please don’t forget that Chinese leaders don’t play poker. Can you name a single instance where modern China has bluffed?

China understands that words matter. If you don’t treat your own words with respect, how do you expect others to take what you say seriously?

China tend to not make bold pronouncements, but when it does, it backs up those words with hard power and the will to use it.

If China flies fighters over Taiwan, its full military will be on full combat alert, and if Taiwan opens fire at those PLAAF planes, its full on armed reunification. That’s not a bluff.

As for timing, well I have said for nearly a year now that covid presents China with a historic opportunity to advance its armed reunification timeline by maybe a decade.

While the US military isn’t as hobbled as it was during the peak of the pandemic, the American economy is still in deep trouble and the covid waves are still rising. With autumn and winter approaching, can the already strained American healthcare system handle the inevitable new waves of hospitalisations without any supplies from China?

China also has a brief window of opportunity where the US currently has zero credible deployed defences against its AShBMs or hypersonic gliders and a deeply weak leader in absence in Biden. If America chooses to fight China now over Taiwan, it will most likely loose and loose badly, and Biden is unlikely to press the big red button out of spite.

Fast forward a few years and Trump comes back for a second term and all bets are off in terms of possible nuclear escalation. By that time it is also possible that the US will at least have something dedicated to defending its ships against AShBMs and hypersonic gliders.

But given the stacked odds and the fact that to fight China over Taiwan and loose will end American global dominance and most likely make the Democrats unelectable for a generation, I think Biden will easily fold. Just like how he did over Afghanistan.
 

Sardaukar20

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The Dasu terrorist attack that killed nine Chinese nationals in Pakistan on July 14 was planned in Afghanistan and carried out by the Swat chapter of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), according to Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at a press conference on Thursday. Some suspects have been arrested in Pakistan and the rest are in Afghanistan. India's intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) and Afghanistan's intelligence agency National Directorate of Security (NDS) were behind the terrorist attack, Qureshi said.
Pakistan needs to produce conclusive evidence. It is a heavy accusation. Otherwise people can accuse them for scapegoating.

India has openly opposed the construction of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), and the aim of the July 14 terrorist attack is widely suspected to be destroying the CPEC. However, India and Pakistan are rivals, and Pakistan's accusations against India need conclusive evidence. China needs to carefully identify and make judgments.
Its the right thing for China to do.

In any case, the terrorist attack against Chinese people in Pakistan is an action against China. Supporting such an attack is also an enemy of China. Once there is conclusive evidence, China will surely make the perpetrators and forces behind them pay a heavy price.
Yes, they need to be made as examples. Enough is enough.

Pakistan said three planners identified have fled to Afghanistan, and Pakistan has requested that Afghanistan hand over the three suspects through a mutual legal assistance request. Afghanistan is currently in chaos, but both the Afghan government and the Afghan Taliban hope to maintain relations with China. China should exert stronger pressure on Afghanistan. No matter which side the three suspects will fall into, Afghanistan should hand them over immediately.
Unfortunately, Afghanistan is currently a failed state. It is the perfect place to hide for terrorists. There is no central government there. There is no easy way to get these guys out if China wants to do so diplomatically.

First, we must accurately identify and pinpoint all personnel and forces participating in organizing and carrying out the July 14 terrorist attack. China should support Pakistan in eradicating and capturing those terrorists and destroying their camps. If those camps are in Afghanistan, we should urge the Afghan government or the Afghan Taliban to destroy them. If they do not have the strength to do so and ask for China's assistance, then China can consider destroying those camps itself.
Good. Just don't forget to double check the intel first before dropping bombs on those camps. You don't want to be dropping bombs over mistakenly identified schools, hospitals, or mosques. That'll just make things messier. Trust, but verify.

I have a better idea actually. Assuming the Taliban is about to win the civil war. Give them some powerful incentives to kill those terrorists themselves. If the Taliban were the ones who will inflict torture, brutality, and death on these terrorists, it'll have better deterrence effects than Chinese bombs. Plus, it keeps China's hands clean.
 

Sardaukar20

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Please don’t forget that Chinese leaders don’t play poker. Can you name a single instance where modern China has bluffed?

China understands that words matter. If you don’t treat your own words with respect, how do you expect others to take what you say seriously?

China tend to not make bold pronouncements, but when it does, it backs up those words with hard power and the will to use it.

If China flies fighters over Taiwan, its full military will be on full combat alert, and if Taiwan opens fire at those PLAAF planes, its full on armed reunification. That’s not a bluff.

As for timing, well I have said for nearly a year now that covid presents China with a historic opportunity to advance its armed reunification timeline by maybe a decade.

While the US military isn’t as hobbled as it was during the peak of the pandemic, the American economy is still in deep trouble and the covid waves are still rising. With autumn and winter approaching, can the already strained American healthcare system handle the inevitable new waves of hospitalisations without any supplies from China?

China also has a brief window of opportunity where the US currently has zero credible deployed defences against its AShBMs or hypersonic gliders and a deeply weak leader in absence in Biden. If America chooses to fight China now over Taiwan, it will most likely loose and loose badly, and Biden is unlikely to press the big red button out of spite.

Fast forward a few years and Trump comes back for a second term and all bets are off in terms of possible nuclear escalation. By that time it is also possible that the US will at least have something dedicated to defending its ships against AShBMs and hypersonic gliders.

But given the stacked odds and the fact that to fight China over Taiwan and loose will end American global dominance and most likely make the Democrats unelectable for a generation, I think Biden will easily fold. Just like how he did over Afghanistan.
I think its better for China to announce this threat to fly PLAAF jets over Taiwan officially from either the PLA or the MOF. Then this would clear any doubts that China means business. Announcing this threat via GT alone is not enough for it to be considered official for something of this gravity.
 

horse

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Unless the PLAAF has something up its sleeve. The current inventory of PLAAF planes could not fly over Taiwan virtually unchallenged. If any PLAAF planes gets shot down, its war.

It appears they are signalling an air war.

Destroy everything in sight first, then fly in equipment an land ground troops.

Once the PLAAF is able to establish an air corridor, to more supplies after landing, it is all over.

Outside forces need to not let the PLAAF dominate the air. That does not seem possible. The distance travelled to come to the fight is logistically very difficult.
 
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