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Mr T

Senior Member
I hate to break it to you that most schools in HK and the US don't offer free swimming classes. And yet both the UK and the US are having education crisis that many kids can't do basic math in order to get into colleges.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting, that because UK schools spend money on swimming lessons it means there's less money for mathematics? I don't know that the two are actually linked.

As for community centers, how would you know China doesn't spent money building them or you just assume that is the case.

So there are places people can learn how to swim for free but for some reason Chinese people choose not to use them?

A few years ago, a high ranking CCP official(an old gentleman) jumped into a fast flowing river and save a few kids.

In China or a foreign country?

I'll say it again, it's because this was an old man who wasn't Chinese and was a diplomat. If the Chinese ambassador to the UK had jumped into a lake when no one else did and saved a British child, it would be big news as well. This isn't rocket science.

No wonder so many Chinese think this might be staged

Yes, it's always a conspiracy to make China look bad, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should point out that didn't share the news article, that was someone else. I merely chipped in when a few people started making snarky comments. It's sad when people are unable to talk about a feel-good news story without it degenerating into yet another Chinese ultra-nationalist rant/conspiracy theory.
 

KYli

Brigadier
Ah true true. However, now that you mention judges, it all comes down to the judges' integrity and honesty that, in the West, is kept in check by various agencies of their governments. In China, based on what I have heard, backdoor dealings happen a lot. While that does happen in the West too, it isn't as blatant and will be swiftly dealt with. The Chinese government sucks at that to be honest. As for the government programs and awareness, while they can bring awareness to that law, the probability of people willingly being good samaritans ultimately depends on the people's trust in the judges' interpretations being unbiased, and the trust comes from how well enforced and fair the laws are.

The problem is much more complicated than what you describe. It is more to do with the policies from the reform era when China adopted western laws and criminal justice system of fighting crime. China adopted more lenient way to fight crimes such as the age of criminal responsibility is 14, people who are 70 years old or older don't get jail sentence, lenient towards minority, and making compromise as the key component of resolving civil disputes, and dead sentences are severely restricted.

The end result is many old people tried to extort money from good Samaritans since they wouldn't be punished even if the police caught them lying. In addition, police officers adopted the tendency to force individuals to make compromise instead of investigating and punishing the wrongdoers. In order to encourage more people be good Samaritans, police officers need to punish whoever tried to use loopholes to extort money from good Samaritans even if these people are elderly.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
I'm not sure what you're suggesting, that because UK schools spend money on swimming lessons it means there's less money for mathematics? I don't know that the two are actually linked.



So there are places people can learn how to swim for free but for some reason Chinese people choose not to use them?



In China or a foreign country?

I'll say it again, it's because this was an old man who wasn't Chinese and was a diplomat. If the Chinese ambassador to the UK had jumped into a lake when no one else did and saved a British child, it would be big news as well. This isn't rocket science.



Yes, it's always a conspiracy to make China look bad, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should point out that didn't share the news article, that was someone else. I merely chipped in when a few people started making snarky comments. It's sad when people are unable to talk about a feel-good news story without it degenerating into yet another Chinese ultra-nationalist rant/conspiracy theory.
They are linked, there is only one budget. Can't pay for math class but got money for swimming? That's just bad prioritzation of limited resources.

Community centers swim classes still cost money.

When I was in swimming class here in Canada, I was taught very specifically to NOT help if someone is drowning in river/lake/ocean. This is because it will bring additional risk to both the person drowning and the person that is attempting to save the drowning person.

There are very specific steps to follow for saving a drowning person for a lifeguard. I had to take 3 additional classes to get my lifeguard certification which needs renewal every 2 years.

And swimming is expensive, pool time in the early morning and late evenings is the cheapest, which is why most kids/teen practices are in those times.
 

KYli

Brigadier
I'm not sure what you're suggesting, that because UK schools spend money on swimming lessons it means there's less money for mathematics? I don't know that the two are actually linked.

I point out the fact that both HK and the US and many countries don't offer free swimming classes so your claim of many countries offer free swimming classes is flaw.

I also point out your suggestion of China needs to put more money in education but UK is actually the one who failed behind in education so maybe investing more resource for math instead of free swimming classes would help.


So there are places people can learn how to swim for free but for some reason Chinese people choose not to use them?

We don't have free swimming classes here in HK and the US. Or community centers are free to use in HK or the US.


In China or a foreign country?

I'll say it again, it's because this was an old man who wasn't Chinese and was a diplomat. If the Chinese ambassador to the UK had jumped into a lake when no one else did and saved a British child, it would be big news as well. This isn't rocket science.

Being in the news and going rampant in the news is two different things. Almost every day there are people jump in and try to save someone that are drowning.


Yes, it's always a conspiracy to make China look bad, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Perhaps I should point out that didn't share the news article, that was someone else. I merely chipped in when a few people started making snarky comments. It's sad when people are unable to talk about a feel-good news story without it degenerating into yet another Chinese ultra-nationalist rant/conspiracy theory.

I already mentioned multiple times in this thread that a good deed is a good deed and compliment the British guy for his heroic effort. you on the other hand tried to make snaky attack. The below quote clearly indicated how disguising you are. The problem with you is that after you insulted Chinese and still think so highly about yourself and think there is nothing wrong with that. That's why many people have tried to ignore you in the forum.


Because it was a 60+ year old diplomat, i.e. the last person someone would expect to have jumped in. I don't know if you think a Chinese diplomat of his age would have been casually walking around the UK and jumped in with barely a moment's thought, but my guess it would be unthinkable to most Chinese netizens given how Chinese diplomats and high-level politicians act.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Australian PM Morrison said he hopes to start improving relations with China during his visit to Japan. Well, he is off to a great start with the suggestion of stationing Japanese troops in Australia and vice versa.

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Australia and Japan will undertake more joint military exercises in the key maritime flashpoints in the Indo-Pacific after Scott Morrison struck a landmark agreement in Tokyo with new Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga.
The defence pact – which will allow for more maritime war games, military aviation exercises and the stationing of troops in each other's countries – was struck shortly before the Australian Prime Minister met his Japanese counterpart on Tuesday night.
The deal paves the way for more military cooperation such as the Malabar naval exercises.

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– whether Japan's death penalty would apply to Australian troops who commit serious crimes such as rape and murder – has been sorted out with both countries agreeing to respect each other's international legal obligations.
Mr Morrison said the significance of the agreement "could not be understated", declaring it a "pivotal moment" in the relationship between the two nations.
"This agreement paves the way for a new chapter of advanced defence cooperation between our two countries," he said.Mr Morrison on Tuesday night became the first world leader to meet Mr Suga on Japanese soil since he became prime minister in September.

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The two nations will now look to increase their military co-operation over the coming years in a number of key geo-strategic waterways, including in the South and East China seas.China's militarisation of the South China Sea and its incursion into Japanese territory in the East China Sea has been a growing concern for Australia and Japan.It is the first agreement covering a foreign military presence in Japanese territory since the 1960 Status of Forces Agreement with the United States.While Australia and Japan have been participating in military exercises together in recent years, the Reciprocal Access Agreement streamlines arrangements to support the deployment of troops more quickly and wit
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The deal struck on Tuesday allows for the establishment of a mechanism "through which the international obligations of both sides are respected" suggesting Australian soldiers would not be exposed to the death penalty. More detail will be provided in the final wording of the agreement, which will be finished next year.Mr Morrison was expected to invite Mr Suga to Australia next year to formally sign the final treaty, which will be followed by more detailed legal negotiations.Mr Morrison said Australia and Japan were committed to working together in support of "a free, open, inclusive and stable Indo-Pacific"."It means Australia and Japan will have a clear framework for how our defence forces operate in each other’s countries" he said.China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi is expected to visit Tokyo less than a week after Mr Morrison leaves Japan.Japanese newspapers Mainichi Shimbun and The Japan Times reported the visit was scheduled for November 25 and will be the highest level meeting between the two countries since Mr Suga took office in September.China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian did not deny plans for the visit on Monday night. "Japan is China’s close neighbour," he said. "We keep close bilateral exchange at all levels."The two major Asian powers have maintained bilateral contact despite the rising unease from countries throughout the region with Beijing's growing assertiveness.RELATED ARTICLE
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Japanese Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi said on Monday that Japan was opposed to any Chinese efforts to "unilaterally change the status quo" by force in the East and South China Sea.
In his first phone call with Mr Suga on Thursday, US President-elect Joe Biden said the Japan-US Security treaty, obliging the US to defend Japan if it is attacked, would apply to the disputed Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea.
Beijing claims the islands off the coast of Taiwan as its own and has ramped up Chinese coast guard missions around the rocky outcrops since the beginning of this year.
Japan’s strategic escalation follows years of mounting concerns that its self-defence focussed military may be vulnerable to pressure from China’s expanding naval capability.

I thought the Japanese constitution forbidded the posting of its troops overseas
 
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