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H2O said:

We are seeing a growing list of countries following China. Many are quietly working with China but are afraid to publicly admit it. It all comes down to how generous China is with the public purse.

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They ain't aligning with China on Huawei who has better 5G.

AssassinsMace said:

They ain't aligning with China on Huawei who has better 5G.

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Well, it just means China wasn't generous enough. Besides, you don't have to win on every front.

H2O said:

Well, it just means China wasn't generous enough. Besides, you don't have to win on every front.

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I'm talking what comes naturally and that would be aligning with the US because it's the longer established safer bet. And that's what we see happening. China's 5G is cheaper. All competitors are not as good and more expensive. China not generous enough?

AssassinsMace said:

I'm talking what comes naturally and that would be aligning with the US because it's the longer established safer bet. And that's what we see happening. China's 5G is cheaper. All competitors are not as good and more expensive. China not generous enough?

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I'm surprised that I have to be more clear. I'm talking about bribes AND you got to bribe the right person (or group) as well. Money makes the World go round.

H2O said:

I'm surprised that I have to be more clear. I'm talking about bribes AND you got to bribe the right person (or group) as well. Money makes the World go round.

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I'm not talking about bribing. I'm saying naturally countries are going to go with the US because it's the establish power. It's the power they know. I also said China chooses to be neutral and that doesn't help because countries will see China isn't going to back them.

AssassinsMace said:

I'm not talking about bribing. I'm saying naturally countries are going to go with the US because it's the establish power. It's the power they know.

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AND you also blamed Christianity and other things which isn't the case. Bolsonaro's action is just typical ass kissing; not sure what he wants from Washington. A while ago you complained about Senator Rubio anti-China rhetoric. If you looked deeper, it's really about wealthy individuals such as Leopoldo López that wants to run Venezuela.

It's all about the money. It's that simple.

AssassinsMace said:

I also said China chooses to be neutral and that doesn't help because countries will see China isn't going to back them.

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Doesn't help? I disagree. It's a wise move by Beijing. Neutrality is always the best path forward. Nations that get upset over China's neutrality isn't worth the time and effort. Would you like China to get involved in the Armenian-Azerbaijani War?

Once you go down the path of picking sides then you'll eventually end up where the US is now; hated and bankrupt.

H2O said:

AND you also blamed Christianity and other things which isn't the case. Bolsonaro's action is just typical ass kissing; not sure what he wants from Washington. A while ago you complained about Senator Rubio anti-China rhetoric. If you looked deeper, it's really about wealthy individuals such as Leopoldo López that wants to run Venezuela.

It's all about the money. It's that simple.




Doesn't help? I disagree. It's a wise move by Beijing. Neutrality is always the best path forward. Nations that get upset over China's neutrality isn't worth the time and effort. Would you like China to get involved in the Armenian-Azerbaijani War?

Once you go down the path of picking sides then you'll eventually end up where the US is now; hated and bankrupt.

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The question that started this conversation is how can Bolsonaro be a Trump ally and then congratulate Biden and the still be anti-China? The common factor between Biden and Trump is it's the US. I never gave an opinion if I want China to be neutral or not. And since when not being neutral means you have to pick a side on everything? Armenian-Azerbaijani War has nothing to do with China. I've also said in the past that I can see why China wants to be neutral as being pragmatic. I'm just pointing out countries look out for their own interests and if they want an ally they're not going to get from a country that wants to play neutral. What does Rubio have to do with which countries do others naturally gravitate to? The US has popular culture meaning being popular is important to them. Do the Chinese promote themselves in a popularity contest? The West is successful in promoting itself in a popularity contest. When China is not even playing the game, some how you think people and countries naturally gravitate towards China? You tell me what countries are on China's side?

Are you Christian hence why it seems sensitive to you? Sorry people who are religious, it does play a big role who they associate. Why do you think it's so important for the US to turn China into Christians. It because they want China to have the same bias as they do meaning also not to be friendly towards countries that Christians don't like.

I was not expecting to get into an endless argument. Constantly repeating myself. Sigh.

All your questions in your last post have already been answered.

FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.

You posted the following that started this mess:

AssassinsMace said:

That's how the world works. They go with the established bet which is also the safest. Latin America is going to lean West because they were conquered by the West. China nor any Far East Asian country ever invaded and occupied Latin America and other parts of the world yet many have yellow invasion fears. Why because they were taught that by their occupiers. Also they embrace Christianity. Anybody who doesn't worship the Christian God is aligned with the Devil. It really comes down to being that simple.

Then it doesn't help China chooses to be neutral. To Beijing that means they don't take sides. They think that's a magnanimous position to hold. To everyone else it says you can't count on China to be on your side.

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You've stated that religion (in this case, Christianity) is the driving force in this anti-China / East Asian thing in Latin America. It's not.

For the LAST time:

FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.

H2O said:

I was not expecting to get into an endless argument. Constantly repeating myself. Sigh.

All your questions in your last post have already been answered.

FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.

You posted the following that started this mess:



You've stated that religion (in this case, Christianity) is the driving force in this anti-China / East Asian thing in Latin America. It's not.

For the LAST time:

FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.

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No examples...?

Chish said:

I didn't expect Bolsonaro to be this low to remains on US side. I mean he doesn't have to bad mouth Trump immediately after Trump lost. He just have to congratulate Biden and remains anti China.

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Erdogan, MBS (Saudi Arabia), Sissi and MBZ (UAE) have also thrown Trump under the bus. Netanyahu will follow soon, if he hasn't done so already.