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PopularScience

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From a transport perspective, China currently has capacity to produce about 20 million electric cars per year.
If used as taxicabs, that could replace 200 million private cars on the roads.

Then you've got electric buses and electric truck production as well.

China's (electrified) railway system will also see a lot more use.

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But if there is a prolonged oil shock, 20 million electric cars annually won't be anywhere near enough.
We'd probably see all of China's existing automobile factories switch to electric vehicles and potentially reach 50 million vehicles per year.

At the same time, demand for combustion engines vehicles will collapse globally.
The big automakers in South Korea and Japan would be particularly hard hit, and we'd probably see bankruptcy and the collapse of their automakers

We'd end up with a situation where China makes a significant majority of all cars in the world, and an export boom comprising Chinese electric vehicles.

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Then we have Chinese solar.

Looks like there are 3.5 million tonnes of polysilicon capacity in China. Of that, 2.4 million tonnes is unutilised and could produce 600GW of solar panels. Depending on location that would be 600-900TWh of additional electricity generation.

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The thing is, other countries would struggle to deploy the required infrastructure (solar + charging points+ electricity grid + batteries) like China is already doing. So we'd probably see electrification elsewhere lagging behind China.

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On manufacturing, all countries are going to suffer from high oil/gas prices.

But it looks like coal to olefin plants in China are competitive against Natural Gas from the Middle East.

10 million tons of coal-based olefin plants will come online next 2 years.

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AssassinsMace

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Doesn’t Prof Jiang work at a Beijing university? That’s what I read. Maybe we’re use to Chinese who are critical of China have to hate China to the point they will lie for the West in anything and everything and they have no qualms with it. They have to spend their time being full-time China-haters. Every China hater seems to be like that.

I remember the beginnings of internet forums and I would say pretty much the same things I do today and vicious little Chinese would accuse me of not being Chinese that I’m trying to trick people into thinking I’m Chinese. I can’t be Chinese and be critical of the US. Ironic because what would I then be being critical of the US and the West? Of course because Chinese speaking individually for themselves is a no-no to some Chinese culturally, I still see that attitude today and even in this forum where some seem to think they can dictate emotion in here like when some joyful event like a scientific breakthrough happens for the Chinese people, there will always be someone who will tell everyone to hold it back. That’s too much. Who does that? And you wonder where the stereotype that Chinese are automatons comes from where someone can tell everyone how they have to conform to the same thinking? That’s why Chinese have a hard time actually believing in democracy. That’s why it’s a joke to me when I see any Chinese vehemently advocating democracy and it’s only a show for the West so white people will like them or if they don’t live in a Western country, they think that’ll get them in.

It’s like Alyssa Liu’s father saying he left China because of Tiananmen Square protests. Unless he was one of the leaders of the movement, he’s a no one and if the US let him in for that, it was purely political on the US’s part. That’s why there’s a difference in the US for political and economic refugees because that’s what the US uses to reject people from getting in.

There’s a YouTube channel of a white American woman who lives in China married to a Uighur. She recently tried to get her husband a visa so he can come to the US to visit her family during the holidays. The US rejected giving him a visa because they believed they were just trying to get him illegally into the US to live. Trump is the one who officially declared a genocide was taking place in Xinjiang.
 

MMelon

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Doesn’t Prof Jiang work at a Beijing university? That’s what I read. Maybe we’re use to Chinese who are critical of China have to hate China to the point they will lie for the West in anything and everything and they have no qualms with it. They have to spend their time being full-time China-haters. Every China hater seems to be like that.

I remember the beginnings of internet forums and I would say pretty much the same things I do today and vicious little Chinese would accuse me of not being Chinese that I’m trying to trick people into thinking I’m Chinese. I can’t be Chinese and be critical of the US. Ironic because what would I then be being critical of the US and the West? Of course because Chinese speaking individually for themselves is a no-no to some Chinese culturally, I still see that attitude today and even in this forum where some seem to think they can dictate emotion in here like when some joyful event like a scientific breakthrough happens for the Chinese people, there will always be someone who will tell everyone to hold it back. That’s too much. Who does that? And you wonder where the stereotype that Chinese are automatons comes from where someone can tell everyone how they have to conform to the same thinking? That’s why Chinese have a hard time actually believing in democracy. That’s why it’s a joke to me when I see any Chinese vehemently advocating democracy and it’s only a show for the West so white people will like them or if they don’t live in a Western country, they think that’ll get them in.

It’s like Alyssa Liu’s father saying he left China because of Tiananmen Square protests. Unless he was one of the leaders of the movement, he’s a no one and if the US let him in for that, it was purely political on the US’s part. That’s why there’s a difference in the US for political and economic refugees because that’s what the US uses to reject people from getting in.

There’s a YouTube channel of a white American woman who lives in China married to a Uighur. She recently tried to get her husband a visa so he can come to the US to visit her family during the holidays. The US rejected giving him a visa because they believed they were just trying to get him illegally into the US to live. Trump is the one who officially declared a genocide was taking place in Xinjiang.
No. He teaches in a private Beijing highschool with insane $40k USD a year tuition.
 

iewgnem

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America has no good options here. They failed to collapse the Iranian government on the initial strike so they're left with either escalating (and likely losing midterms due to oil prices) or pulling out (and admitting defeat)

Everybody is gonna get hit economically but China will come out on top because they're dominating renewables
They're going to lose a lot more than midterms lol

American elections arent real, this is fully in the end of empire territory
 

A potato

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I've seen a lot of these celebration videos that MAGA posted as evidence that this war was supported by the Iranian people. The best answer to this is to ask them how big the celebration would be in all the blue cities and blue states if Trump died. The US would drown in liquor and half the people would call in sick for a few days from the no-day-no-night partying. The streets of NYC would be completely undrivable for days with an endless parade of drunks dancing and if anyone said, "Are we sick celebrating an old man's death?" he'd probably get a beer bottle to the back of the head before he even finished his sentence. If some Iranian diaspora celebrating in the US means that Iranians need to be freed violently from their government, then what would the "Trump Died" party say about the US?
This literally happened with Charlie Kirk's death.
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