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Sardaukar20

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Putin is daydreaming about restoring the USSR and lives in 1980s world. You guys seem to have a weird idea of „success“. If going from a space faring superpower to China‘s gas supplier is success then I don‘t know what failure ist.
Russia is still a space faring superpower. What failure are you talking about? Who else other than the US and China could send people to space? Russia has Glonass. Not bad for a failure.

So when Russia was supplying gas to Europe, it was a success. But when it is supplying gas to China, it is a failure? Why?

Europe and the Middle East were indeed becoming irrelevant for Americans from Obama administration. US started calling itself a pacific power and asked Europeans to carry their share of defending themselves because it‘s too expensive for the US to spend money into a part of the world that they don‘t consider as critical. Even after annexing Crimea, Germany was still buying gas from Russia and Russia didn‘t have to dangerously depend on China because they had options. In the end of the day, it‘s lose-lose for both the EU and Russia. Of course a Chinese would like what‘s happening because Russia has essentially become China‘s bitch but Russians themselves would habe other opinions. It is clear as day that this war has been a failure and the only thing that keeps this war going is Putin‘s ego and reputation.
For decades, Russia had been dependent on the West. What it got in return was NATO, missiles, Jihadists, and Nazis creeping up it's borders. When Russia was embracing the West, it had a basket case economy and nearly lost the Caucasus. The West have been talking about breaking up Russia for centuries. But yeah, no danger.

When Russia becomes "dangerously" dependent on China. Big trade deals. Factories left by Western companies reopening. Economy stabilized, despite the war and sanctions. Peace on Russia's Far East. No 1990s economic collapse. China treats Russia like a brother, not a child. If becoming China's "bitch" looks like that, why the hell partner with the West?

Ukraine joining NATO wouldn‘t have done a goddamm thing as Estonia, Poland, Lithuania and now Finnland and Sweden joined. If Russia didn‘t cause trouble, the US would have eventually scaled down its European assetd and would habe moved to the pacific where the real game is. This is assuming that a corrupt country like Ukraine would have even been accepted into NATO and the EU. They had a bad reputation before this war started. Russia caused the very thing that they feared to happen.
Ukraine joining NATO would have ended up with a Nazi state backed by NATO with American missiles and nukes on Russia's border. If there's any indication of what kind of threat the Nazis in Ukraine would have posed to Russia if they had NATO weapons and training, just look at the ongoing Ukraine War.

Ukraine is not like the Baltics, Finland and Sweden to Russia. Ukraine have always been part of the Russian civilization until 1991. When Ukraine was separated from Russia and then turned into a hostile Nazi state, the Russians see it as an existential threat to their civilization. That is why Russia had to deal with Ukraine. It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks. Ukraine is a personal matter to Russia.

Throughout the Ukraine War, Russia have singlehandedly dismantled decades of NATO weapons stockpile, doctrine, and assumptions. That's an achievement that nobody in the "Free World" can come close to matching. What is your criteria for success? Russia is killing thousands of Ukrainian Nazis, trained, equipped, and guided by NATO. But that's failure to you. The Israelis bombed thousands of civilians in their homes in Gaza and Lebanon. Does that look more like success to you?
 

Some1Guy

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Sadly there is zero political motivacion from the Modi Government to solve the problem because that means an economic sacrifice and they think that will bad for the polls, also the wealthy elite is going to lobby against any measure that cut their profits.
Similar problem as USA, where both parties are incentivized to keep the status quo instead of fixing it because they get their pay check from wealthy billionaires that have zero interest in changing the status quo because that's where they get their profit from, not to mention both political parties suing other political parties to get rid of competition while psychologically convincing people that voting for 3rd parties is bad and wrong to keep people voting for Democrat/Republican.

As far as i know the only place in USA where suing another political party is disallowed is California where they have a socialist party called the Peace and Freedom party, which is actually getting more popular especially after the release of the Epstein files.

Obviously not all of this applies to India especially the 2 party situation but its similar none the less especially with the fact that both democrats and republicans have their own propaganda news outlets which are designed to keep people divided which in India corresponds to Modi and his political party's nationalist rhetoric especially to whole blame China and Pakistan thing to keep people distracted from the real problems.
 

uguduwa

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Russia is still a space faring superpower. What failure are you talking about? Who else other than the US and China could send people to space? Russia has Glonass. Not bad for a failure.

So when Russia was supplying gas to Europe, it was a success. But when it is supplying gas to China, it is a failure? Why?


For decades, Russia had been dependent on the West. What it got in return was NATO, missiles, Jihadists, and Nazis creeping up it's borders. When Russia was embracing the West, it had a basket case economy and nearly lost the Caucasus. The West have been talking about breaking up Russia for centuries. But yeah, no danger.

When Russia becomes "dangerously" dependent on China. Big trade deals. Factories left by Western companies reopening. Economy stabilized, despite the war and sanctions. Peace on Russia's Far East. No 1990s economic collapse. China treats Russia like a brother, not a child. If becoming China's "bitch" looks like that, why the hell partner with the West?


Ukraine joining NATO would have ended up with a Nazi state backed by NATO with American missiles and nukes on Russia's border. If there's any indication of what kind of threat the Nazis in Ukraine would have posed to Russia if they had NATO weapons and training, just look at the ongoing Ukraine War.

Ukraine is not like the Baltics, Finland and Sweden to Russia. Ukraine have always been part of the Russian civilization until 1991. When Ukraine was separated from Russia and then turned into a hostile Nazi state, the Russians see it as an existential threat to their civilization. That is why Russia had to deal with Ukraine. It doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks. Ukraine is a personal matter to Russia.

Throughout the Ukraine War, Russia have singlehandedly dismantled decades of NATO weapons stockpile, doctrine, and assumptions. That's an achievement that nobody in the "Free World" can come close to matching. What is your criteria for success? Russia is killing thousands of Ukrainian Nazis, trained, equipped, and guided by NATO. But that's failure to you. The Israelis bombed thousands of civilians in their homes in Gaza and Lebanon. Does that look more like success to you?
Space faring superpower that recently lost its only launchpad for manned missions. Its lunar missions also ended in failure.... Compare that to the USSR. These are some of the achievements of the USSR:

First man in space
First woman in space
First satellite
First space station
First lunar lander
First venus lander

Now can you really say with a straight face that today's Russia is in any way comparable to the USSR? Putin had decades of high oil prices to build a solid economy, instead he built a corrupt kakistocracy. In theory Russia has everything to be one of the wealthiest and most advanced countries in the world.

It's not about depending on power when you can be friendly with BOTH powers and enjoy benefits, at least when you are at a weakeer position. Both depending on China and the West is dangerous. Russia and Japan are 2 countries that are at opposite ends of the spectrum.


Ukraine joining NATO and the EU used to be a big if. If this stupid war never started, it was seen as yet another corrupt eastern European country and the western Europeans were wary of expanding NATO or EU eastwards, especially because of Hungary. And even if they did, so what? Russia is a nuclear power that won't see any direct threats towards its mainland.
 

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talk about a gambling addiction.





foreign stealth aircraft? Could’ve been the F-35 or the F-22?
It’s the Su-30MK2 from PLANAF. Since there has been only one encounter between J-16 and F-22 the opponent this time is definitely F-35.
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Stealth fighter aircraft from foreign adversary humiliated by two PLANAF Su-30 after dogfighting. Looks like there is a legit problem of skill issue and there is legit need to boost flight hours.

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BlackWindMnt

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For the past 20 years, financial advisors and planners have recommended families take on liabilities to reduce their tax liabilities, but now that it seems too much of the middle class are doing this, the Western Atlanticist elites have decided to tax unrealised gains.

Plus they also need money for the upcoming war against China and the ongoing war against Russia.
Like we say in the netherlands "Snel weg hier!!" loosely translated (Get out fast!!!)

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And they wonder why they can’t get shit done…
Westerners are rewarded another "Fell for it again" reward. People really though we would be mining and refining rare earth hell no we are going to create a new section in the casino.
 
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