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Randomuser

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Been thinking.

When you have some small protest or people disagreeing in China, western media always exaggerate how bad this is and the government will be overthrown. They love saying how evil they are for use of force.

Meanwhile America seems like GTA right now where cops can impudently kill you on camera coz you looked at them funny. And I think the worst part is peoples apathy to it. Like some people getting executed live on screen have basically memes. Using western media logic, the US government should have collapsed years ago. Yet it's still around and people are basically laughing someone dies as long as they are supporting the opposite view.

And don't give me the bodycam BS. It hasn't really done much coz cops know how to approach things in a way so the guy they shoot can be said to be "non compliant" in a way that's a direct threat to the officer. Hell they even made a show calls cops that basically glorify recording cops body cams beating up and arresting people.
 
vincent

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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bebops said:
I believed Democrats will win. The young voters and latinos who once voted for Trump in 2024 are expressing strong dissatisfaction on the surveys and polls right now.

Without strong latino, young and independent voters, either side cannot win.
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Not if ICE agents are circling outside of voting stations.
 
supercat

supercat

Colonel
siegecrossbow said:
Chinese liberals — the boy inferior people like blacks and Latinos have low lifespan. East Asians have much higher lifespans than those of communist China.

MAGA — hehe we’ll see about that.
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China's life expectancy is not uniform either. For example, Shanghai's life expectancy rivals developed (OECD) countries. Notice that the combined population of China's large cities are often equivalent to European countries. See table below:
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LMAO news of the day, written by - who else? A female Chinese diaspora reporter! I put it in the same category of "Chinese 'fuel' their rockets with water" and "Chinese cook with rocket fuel".
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015484886149447755

Coping tweet of the day, from a twitter with a ...drum roll... India last name:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015292622219235824
 
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iewgnem

Captain
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supercat said:
LMAO news of the day, written by - who else? A female Chinese diaspora reporter! I put it in the same category of "Chinese 'fuel' their rockets with water" and "Chinese cook with rocket fuel".
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015484886149447755
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I always found it funny whenever the west talk about corruption in China that there seem to be no self awareness that the corruption they describe is exactly what's every western official are expected to do.

i.e. take bribes or collude with military industrial complex on defence programs.
 
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montyp165

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plawolf said:
The obvious and only conclusions that could be drawn at this point is that these extrajudicial executions are effectively policy.

The swiftness and consistency of things going from nothing to execution is impossible for anyone targeted to have any realistic chance to de-escalate once you are targeted. One second you are recording and talking, the next you are dogpiled, pistol whipped from all angles and pumped full of bullets within seconds.

With RoE like this, deaths are inevitable. And with the administration making zero efforts to rein in this behaviour when they could have easily gone with the standardised ‘bad apples’ excuse means that this behaviour is at a minimum condemned, if not outright encouraged.

That tracks with the broader purpose of ICE as Trump and MAGA’s personal paramilitary enforcers.

The goals of so blatantly using ICE in such a way is multifaceted.

Firstly, it is meant to intimidate and set examples to cow the masses. Behave, fall in line or we unleash the ICEtapo on you and turn your neighbourhood into legal kill zones where ICE can execute anyone who they don’t like the look of at any time with impunity. With an environment like that, it’s easier to keep your head down and look the other way.

Secondly, it secures the loyalty of ICE through such open displays of patronage by Trump, as well as through complicity in his crimes. It’s not so easy to turn your back on Trump and walk away if there is a real risk you will be hauled in front of a court alongside him.

One of the worst things, and the most likely thing that the democrats will do as things like this keep happening is make a big song and dance about holding ICE agents personally responsible for their actions by stripping them of their professional immunity. That will fire up their base, but it will also cement ICE’s loyalty to Trump.

I do not personally think a new American Civil War is imminent for many reasons. But Trump and his cliche are absolutely laying the foundations for seizing power and ending democracy, just so long as Trump can hold his nerve and doesn’t TACO at the last, which is also a real possibility. And with them in control of the national security apparatus, it’s far more likely that they will be able to isolate and eliminate all domestic opponents capable of putting up a serious challenge to their take over that no one will be able to organise enough of an opposition for it be come close to being a civil war. It will be one giant series of purges and lethal SWAT raids and ‘accidents’.

The only realistic scenario where things does escalate to Civil War is if there is a foreign state level actor willing and able to foster the opposition into open rebellion and provide enough material support that this opposition survives long enough to attract enough followers to achieve critical mass instead of being crushed after the first battle.

Ironically, the EU/NATO is actually the only viable entity able to act as this foreign support. Russia and China might have the material means and the will to support such a rebellion, but most Americans are too thoroughly trained to view both as the enemy for any movement openly supported by them to achieve grassroots acceptance. A American government in exile in Europe would be far more attractive to far more ordinary Americans. This may by the reason why Trump is so hell bent on undermining and even dismantling NATO.
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The way I see it, just as how the 2 World Wars destroyed the power system constructed from the Napoleonic Wars, the next World War will end the western system no less clearly, the underlying driving logic of western imperialism will see to that.
 
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