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AssassinsMace

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Anybody seen the footage of the ICE raid on Canal Street in New York's Chinatown? I didn't see anyone Asian looking in the area. I don't know New York so if anyone does, did they get rid of the Chinese in New York's Chinatown and is just a name now, was it some reverse gentrification going on, or was it where street vendors (which is the reason why the raid was there because it was reported by someone) will be anywhere to sell? In San Francisco and Oakland's Chinatown the only time you someone not Asian hanging around for extended periods are homeless people panhandling. You'll see some stores along Grant Ave. run by non-Chinese immigrants because that's the tourist street.
 

Chevalier

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Flowers are blooming in Antarctica


At least one Asian nation other than China doesn’t accept living as a subhuman slave to the Anglo American elites.

Also, regarding the latest Trump spasm to ban software, it strikes me just how much the rare earths ban has hurt them; they were so committed to economic and trade war against China and isolating China that they never considered that China would enact a counter containment strategy against them and demolish them.
 

9dashline

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Flowers are blooming in Antarctica


At least one Asian nation other than China doesn’t accept living as a subhuman slave to the Anglo American elites.

Also, regarding the latest Trump spasm to ban software, it strikes me just how much the rare earths ban has hurt them; they were so committed to economic and trade war against China and isolating China that they never considered that China would enact a counter containment strategy against them and demolish them.
This is just the start, China is really going on offensive now, MAGAtards are going to be in the shock of their lives
 

Clango

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Yup, the dude is essentially arguing bitcoin is worth more than gold

Software is just info, it can be copied, in age of LLM code is now commodity

REE is actual stuff...

There is a good reason China stocking up on gold but banned bitcoin

Now China is making its trade partners use WPS and forcing them off MS Word

America thinks it has a software moat... its in for rude awakening

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I'd prefer if they make the whole world use libreoffice though, the idea that China would be the largest advocate for LibreOffice in the world would be great if at the very least for optics
 

Clango

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Fun fact. All phones in China don’t have Google services yet they are fully functional.
Yeah but they're still running on android, which is American software, unless the government forces all companies to switch to HarmonyNXT they're still using Android as their mobile operating system, but if this pushes efforts for widespread linux adoption maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing, especially again, if Chinese software now have to be made for linux then this will surely be big for global linux adoption.
 

horse

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Also, regarding the latest Trump spasm to ban software, it strikes me just how much the rare earths ban has hurt them; they were so committed to economic and trade war against China and isolating China that they never considered that China would enact a counter containment strategy against them and demolish them.

You know, I think we should forget about it, after thinking about it for a couple of minutes, this whole thing is just to grab attention and headlines. There is no point here, regarding the software banning talk.

What the question is, it is about power. There are limits to power.

That seems to me the most important thing about power. We see it wielded, but we do not know the limits, even though we know there are limits to power.

Seems to me that the current REE restrictions has exposed the limits to US power, along with that Liberation Day silliness.

That is all I really want to say, and that is why we probably should not really talk about it, because not much there, and probably will not happen.



You know, it is the nuts and bolts, the practical application.

A simple question, is how will the United States government know that some company used US software?

But, I realized, after 2 minutes, that is not even the most important question. The real question is how would the US government even know about business dealings between two countries that do not use USD to transact that trade?

We should remember and understand such a world already exist, although mostly on the margins. Still it is functioning smoothly and working as intended.

Mr. Walmsley explained it months ago, about events that happened years ago.




To conclude this post, how would the US government know about how others trade with China?

Suppose America tells Vietnam you cannot trade with China because you use Google. Vietnam says yes to Uncle Sam, then continues to trade with China. How would the US government know? If they use RMB or dong to settle trade via an electronic ledger, then who cares right.

200% tariffs!

:p
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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That was a great move, but it's not something most countries can replicate. They are not China, they don't have the engineering talent and resources, and they didn't have the foresight (China banned Western tech. giants over 15 years ago after realizing the security threat their global monopolies posed), so now Western tech. giants DO have deep roots in their economies, it is not nearly as easy to tear them out.

That said, if the US goes forward with this ban, then that provides an once in a century opportunity to build a parallel global ecosystem. What China would need to do is convince other countries that it can be trusted to lead a truly open source initiative (with no possibility of a "rug pull" moment later). It'd also need to invest a lot of political and financial capital (e.g. carrots) to break the initial resistance and to force the US into making a losing move (like telling countries "you either use US software only or we destroy your economy," which will be self-defeating).
Are cellphones and PCs are the only things China export?
Go to the Chinese Custom page and educate yourself
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manqiangrexue

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Anybody seen the footage of the ICE raid on Canal Street in New York's Chinatown? I didn't see anyone Asian looking in the area. I don't know New York so if anyone does, did they get rid of the Chinese in New York's Chinatown and is just a name now, was it some reverse gentrification going on, or was it where street vendors (which is the reason why the raid was there because it was reported by someone) will be anywhere to sell? In San Francisco and Oakland's Chinatown the only time you someone not Asian hanging around for extended periods are homeless people panhandling. You'll see some stores along Grant Ave. run by non-Chinese immigrants because that's the tourist street.
No, Canal Street in NYC is very very Chinese. I grew up in NYC and went there all the time. Last time I was there was 2018 and it was still heavily Chinese. Maybe they were in Little Italy? Oddly, that is inside the Canal Street Chinatown for some reason.
 

vincent

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Yeah but they're still running on android, which is American software, unless the government forces all companies to switch to HarmonyNXT they're still using Android as their mobile operating system, but if this pushes efforts for widespread linux adoption maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing, especially again, if Chinese software now have to be made for linux then this will surely be big for global linux adoption.
Do you know Android is open source?
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