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MortyandRick

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You know on Twitter I thought it was only some dumb Jai Hinds who spout suck nonsense. But it turns out even people who are in prominent positions believe such crap in real life. Shows the rot comes all the way from the top.
I think Indian politics has always been from the top down since Modi, who's is quite the populist.

The masses and voters likey vote with their emotions, then justify their choice by agreeing with the BJP party that they voted for.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
At least Shinzo Abe was your usual politician with their political forked tongue. I don’t see that with Sanae Takaichi. She is clearly pushing for conflict with China in some form. Most likely going to set the stage to drag Japan into joining the US war against China.

Diplomatic relations with China get under her skin and threats to send Japanese troops to Taiwan. She seems more like those European chihuahuas than a career politician like Shinzo Abe.


well, only her first few days in the office, just a rhetoric until she faces a reality to understand who is the boss
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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Moderator - World Affairs
The shrine can go but forcefully removing their emperor makes you no better than the monster you deride.
How well-versed are you with Japanese history? Japanese emperors have been puppets for a long time in history, yet the institution regained power after the arrival of American Black Fleet and played a pivotal role in Japanese militarism since. Jap emperor Hirohito was an important decision maker in Japanese invasion of China. Can you guarantee history will not repeat itself?
 

Africablack

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How well-versed are you with Japanese history? Japanese emperors have been puppets for a long time in history, yet the institution regained power after the arrival of American Black Fleet and played a pivotal role in Japanese militarism since. Jap emperor Hirohito was an important decision maker in Japanese invasion of China. Can you guarantee history will not repeat itself?
I'm pretty well versed. It doesn't matter even if I wasn't, tampering with their history as an outsider isn't going to go down well. Nobody wants outsiders to interfere with their culture.
 

Sardaukar20

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BS excuse. Malays consist a large part of the minority yet Malaysia is way more pro-China.
It's actually more complicated than that. Malaysian Chinese are treated as second class citizens, while Singaporean Chinese are regular citizens in their own nation. Without going through a racial struggle, it is only human nature to lack appreciation for China's rise. Furthermore Singapore is an internationalized metropolitan city state, so this creates a sense of elitism amongst people who gravitate to the West.

Malaysia's pro-China sentiment is rather complicated. The current ruling establishment, and the rural communities of Malaysian Chinese are quite pro-China. However, there is still that majority Malay population who are mostly anti-Chinese, and by extension, anti-China. There is also a large percentage of urban Malaysian Chinese who are boba liberals and bananas. The NED is hard at work, spreading its influence in Malaysia. It's in the media, politics, NGOs, and even places of worship. I can go on and on about this, but the jist is that Malaysia is doing a terrible job of keeping the CIA and NED out.

I do hope I'm wrong on this. But I feel that Malaysia is one election away from turning into a Malay Muslim Hindutva-style state. The Malay Muslim majority, especially the youths are mostly in favour of an Islamist political party called PAS. That party used to have decent leaders, but today it is dominated by demagogues and bigots. Don't let the pro-Palestine sentiment fool you, these people equally hate China for being communist and Chinese. If these people win the next election, then Sino-Malaysia relations is gonna stall again.

If China is looking for friends, it is better off working with Indonesia and nations in Indochina. Malaysia and Singapore are just too fickle-minded. They should be treated as business clients, nothing more.
 

Tse

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Westernised Malaysian Chinese are a small minority.
I used to think that as well, as a Chinese person next to Malaysia. But then I personally encountered many cases of Malaysian Chinese who practice all the Chinese festivals and are fluent in Mandarin as 1st language but publicly advocate for Malaysian Chinese to stop using Mandarin among each other and switch to Malay or English, or mocking mainland Chinese tourists or immigrants, attacking PRC patriotism, condemning China's SCS activities, OCP, political system, peddling the usual free-market-liberal-democratic-internationalist nonsense etc. If we were to use the absurdly narrow definition of Westernization as referring to people who can't speak Mandarin and attend Christian churches, then sure they are a small minority, but even Singapore Chinese are only 20% Christian and overwhelmingly prefer to speak creolized Minnan-Malay-English rather than actual English. My Malaysian friend assures me that the real divide is actually between those who attend Chinese schools (which still exist mainly because of Chinese defiance against Malay suppression) and those who attend other schools, especially international schools.
 

4Tran

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And China will not adopt that level of intervention and interference as the west has. China's form of hegemony is more in tributary style without colonising, imposing, forcing, enslaving and genociding like the west. Keep in mind we are talking about Japan doing this, not China. We're talking about how China should respond to Japan adopting intervention and interference against China.
In many ways, you can think of China as the anti-US in terms of geopolitical positioning. Everything that the US wants is something that China is adverse to. And one of the main goals of Chinese diplomacy is to establish long term win-win relationships, and that's something that the US doesn't give a flip about.

You know on Twitter I thought it was only some dumb Jai Hinds who spout suck nonsense. But it turns out even people who are in prominent positions believe such crap in real life. Shows the rot comes all the way from the top.
One thing that I've noticed about Indians in general is that they seem to not have any empathy for people in other countries. Not so much in that they don't care about them, but more in the sense that they have no idea how those other countries view India. If this observation is correct, I think it'd go a long way into explaining why Indians think that they have way more allies in the world than they actually have. Nobody in the world would look at India and think that they are allies of countries like the US, Russia, or France, but I get the feeling that it's a common opinion in India itself!

I'm pretty well versed. It doesn't matter even if I wasn't, tampering with their history as an outsider isn't going to go down well. Nobody wants outsiders to interfere with their culture.
To give you some context, bear in mind that one of the most senior officers of the IJA during the Nanjing Masscre was Prince Asaka, and he was literally the uncle of Emperor Hirohito. While I don't think that China would have much interest in removing the Japanese Imperial family, I can see why some Chinese are going to feel that it should.

However, if Japan were to join a war against China, I don't think that China would leave it unscathed. An occupation or large scale invasion aren't feasible, but China formally taking the Senkaku Islands is a foregone conclusion. I also see a small chance of China splitting out Okinawa from Japan and reestablishing the nation of Ryukyu again.
 

gullible

Junior Member
Malaysian Overseas Chinese also tend to keep to their native Chinese Folk Religions and therefore the values systems are expected to be more upright and prosocial to Chinese cultural norms...as opposed to Chinese traitor groups who tend to follow anglo american evangelical christian or fundamentalis wahabbist muslim cults.
i dont speak for other chinese christians..
i am educated in chinese primary school & english missionary secondary school.
i & some of my christian friends are not anti china. Actually we dont trust any human governments...
we dont observe christmas, easter but we observe family gathering during chinese new year, mid-autumn & dumpling festive.
not all chinese christians are like what you have said.
 
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