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ougoah

Brigadier
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I'm not interested in Communism or any other "ism". Just speaking truth to power. Like I said, if the next generation of China's leadership adopts interference and decides to act like the European then the PRC will be in for a hard time.

And China will not adopt that level of intervention and interference as the west has. China's form of hegemony is more in tributary style without colonising, imposing, forcing, enslaving and genociding like the west. Keep in mind we are talking about Japan doing this, not China. We're talking about how China should respond to Japan adopting intervention and interference against China.


Japanese arrogance is not reason enough to topple their mascot emperor, China outclasses Japan in most measurable aspects these days except per capita gdp and what, anime? That's the ultimate defeat if you ask me. Japan will not get involved in any damn war with Taiwan, everybody knows this. This is why the Americans were trying to seek assurances and the Japanese ignored them. It's one of the reasons why the US has toned down their rhetoric on Taiwan, they know they'll be on their own.

Japan literally is entertaining the idea of getting involved and has the political stupidity and type of political leaders that might. This is to America's satisfaction as it would love it if Japan lays itself down to fight this war. The danger is Japan failing to appreciate its relative weakness and imposing a cost to both China and Japan if it persists with getting actively involved in a Chinese internal matter, actively shooting at Chinese and killing Chinese plus destroying Chinese military equipment. Surely after the war is fought, China needs to impose a cost on Japan for all this? It must do its best to ensure it doesn't happen again. Clearly Japan considering involvement, intervention, interference on Chinese internal matters shows us that two atom bombs and it still has leaders that want to take Japan to war of intervention.

The core of this problem is Japan and the US does not allow Taiwan to peacefully reunify with China. Even though 40% of Taiwanese and the original runaway party (KMT) now is neutral or pro reunification with China. Some KMT and Taiwanese civilian and military
leaders are on record claiming they prefer reunification as today's China is basically what a lot of them desired for the ROC. They aren't brainwashed.
 

horse

Colonel
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Is it? NAFOs were all jumping up and down when Raptors under similar configurations humiliated Su-35 in Syria. Guess that must also be a nothingburger.

This recent claim from the J-15 pilot, is the third report that I have come across regarding Chinese jets intercepting American stealth jets.

Here are the other two reports.


The first that I can remember and know of, was revealed by that American general, 3 years ago.

The second report was from wan wan media in June this year that incident.


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They talked about it in the first 5 minutes.


Now this third incident.

They were all the same, seems to me, that American stealth jets approached Chinese targets and Chinese military got them on radar and went to intercept getting into visual range.

The new claim was this time they were locked on.

:oops::D
 

tamsen_ikard

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I'm not interested in Communism or any other "ism". Just speaking truth to power. Like I said, if the next generation of China's leadership adopts interference and decides to act like the European then the PRC will be in for a hard time.

Japanese arrogance is not reason enough to topple their mascot emperor, China outclasses Japan in most measurable aspects these days except per capita gdp and what, anime? That's the ultimate defeat if you ask me. Japan will not get involved in any damn war with Taiwan, everybody knows this. This is why the Americans were trying to seek assurances and the Japanese ignored them. It's one of the reasons why the US has toned down their rhetoric on Taiwan, they know they'll be on their own.
Anyone who thinks China will be benign when it gets powerful is going to be throughly disappointed. China will be like every other country that gets powerful. They will utilize that power to maximize its own influence and prosperity.

China is not a special uniquely benign country.

But you can also be sure that China will not use its power like Europeans did in 19th century or Americans did in 20th century. Its because the world has also changed. Priorities have also changed. China will have their own vision for using that power.

My own thinking is that China's biggest focus on gaining prosperity is market access for its products and also access to raw materials. So, China could use military power to force countries to open up their markets for Chinese products and also use military power to prevent any other country to try to stop raw materials from getting imported into China. That will be China's goal for the world. A stable system where China can do business.

As for its own backyard, China will focus on neutralizing all threats. So any country that is hostile to China in its nearby areas will either be converted or broken into pieces. Russia, India and Japan are prime target for this. They will either becomes China's friends and slowly accept Chinese dominance, or they will be broken into pieces.
 
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Randomuser

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This place is turning into reddit, being infiltrated by CIA. The clue is when you start calling everything you don't agree with "communism". The Chinese (from actual China, not western born) don't say crap like that. I'm not interested in Communism or any other "ism". Just speaking truth to power. Like I said, if the next generation of China's leadership adopts interference and decides to act like the European then the PRC will be in for a hard time.

Japanese arrogance is not reason enough to topple their mascot emperor, China outclasses Japan in most measurable aspects these days except per capita gdp and what, anime? That's the ultimate defeat if you ask me. Japan will not get involved in any damn war with Taiwan, everybody knows this. This is why the Americans were trying to seek assurances and the Japanese ignored them. It's one of the reasons why the US has toned down their rhetoric on Taiwan, they know they'll be on their own.
Curious. What exactly is your source for knowing what people in China really think or say? We have people actually from there who can read and write Chinese. We can do a verification if you want.
 

Sardaukar20

Major
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Pakistani PM is visiting Malaysia.

This may be small news, but it makes s for an interesting observation. Pakistan is quite well respected amongst the Muslim world. And being a friend of China, Pakistan does help to bridge China with Muslim countries.

In contrast, India is not well very respected amongst the Global South. Mainly because of how it treats them with imperialistic disdain. India much prefers to associate itself with the Global North, alienating many in the Global South. And China doesn't need India anyway as a bridge to talk to the Global North. These days, it's the Global North who comes to China to talk.

An Indian scholar once told Victor Gao that China has no friends. Idiot. China has friends. Pakistan has friends. What friends does India really have? It's neighbours despise it, the West disdains it. The rest are in various degrees of indifference. Russia and Israel? They're just treating India as a business client. There is nothing much underneath that.
 

jiajia99

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This place is turning into reddit, being infiltrated by CIA. The clue is when you start calling everything you don't agree with "communism". The Chinese (from actual China, not western born) don't say crap like that. I'm not interested in Communism or any other "ism". Just speaking truth to power. Like I said, if the next generation of China's leadership adopts interference and decides to act like the European then the PRC will be in for a hard time.

Japanese arrogance is not reason enough to topple their mascot emperor, China outclasses Japan in most measurable aspects these days except per capita gdp and what, anime? That's the ultimate defeat if you ask me. Japan will not get involved in any damn war with Taiwan, everybody knows this. This is why the Americans were trying to seek assurances and the Japanese ignored them. It's one of the reasons why the US has toned down their rhetoric on Taiwan, they know they'll be on their own.
If Japan does nothing, well fine but given Japan history and its tendency to do unspeakable things and also how it never apologize for its actions in WW2 (and no that US sponsored bullshit doesn’t count since what happened in Nanjing has never been atoned for), if one soldier goes to Taiwan for the purposes of mucking around and trying to help the USA in anyway in regards to the whole Taiwanese question, well all bets are off. Japan needs to know that any ambitions to bring back its WW2 roots is forever dead and any attempt by anyone in this world to bring that back should be shown the consequences of their stupidity. The time is ripe for the past colonist to suffer some real pain for once, all it needs is a spark to be lit by some nationalistic moron think they are going to be Winston Churchill and this time, nothing anyone can say will stop justice being done
 
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MortyandRick

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Pakistani PM is visiting Malaysia.

This may be small news, but it makes s for an interesting observation. Pakistan is quite well respected amongst the Muslim world. And being a friend of China, Pakistan does help to bridge China with Muslim countries.

In contrast, India is not well very respected amongst the Global South. Mainly because of how it treats them with imperialistic disdain. India much prefers to associate itself with the Global North, alienating many in the Global South. And China doesn't need India anyway as a bridge to talk to the Global North. These days, it's the Global North who comes to China to talk.

An Indian scholar once told Victor Gao that China has no friends. Idiot. China has friends. Pakistan has friends. What friends does India really have? It's neighbours despise it, the West disdains it. The rest are in various degrees of indifference. Russia and Israel? They're just treating India as a business client. There is nothing much underneath that.

Is this the video you're referring to? I normally don't watch Victor debating against Indian elite but I did this time.

This is the arrogance of India elites. They say china can't be trusted because china wants to dominate Asia. What that really means is that India thought they were gonna dominate Asia, but they lost to china.

See how the Indian speaker talks about India being a democracy and how since it's a democracy, naturally US and Western democracies are better suited to be India's partners? Lol they still strive for western acceptance, even when western countries reject India.

I did feel that victor gao did not do well in this interview. There were so many instance where he could have called out the hypocrisy from that Indian speaker.

Eg. The Indian guy said India helped China get the permanent seat on the security Council, and when Victor gao stated that it was acctually the blood sweat and tears of millions of Chinese, the Indian laughed it off as "china version of history". But when Victor mentioned how trump should get the peace prize for stopping the war between Indian and Pakistan, the Indian got mad and denied it. I think Victor should have call out the Indian version of history, which is vastly different from real history.
 

Randomuser

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Is this the video you're referring to? I normally don't watch Victor debating against Indian elite but I did this time.

This is the arrogance of India elites. They say china can't be trusted because china wants to dominate Asia. What that really means is that India thought they were gonna dominate Asia, but they lost to china.

See how the Indian speaker talks about India being a democracy and how since it's a democracy, naturally US and Western democracies are better suited to be India's partners? Lol they still strive for western acceptance, even when western countries reject India.

I did feel that victor gao did not do well in this interview. There were so many instance where he could have called out the hypocrisy from that Indian speaker.

Eg. The Indian guy said India helped China get the permanent seat on the security Council, and when Victor gao stated that it was acctually the blood sweat and tears of millions of Chinese, the Indian laughed it off as "china version of history". But when Victor mentioned how trump should get the peace prize for stopping the war between Indian and Pakistan, the Indian got mad and denied it. I think Victor should have call out the Indian version of history, which is vastly different from real history.
You know on Twitter I thought it was only some dumb Jai Hinds who spout suck nonsense. But it turns out even people who are in prominent positions believe such crap in real life. Shows the rot comes all the way from the top.
 

Africablack

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Curious. What exactly is your source for knowing what people in China really think or say? We have people actually from there who can read and write Chinese. We can do a verification if you want.
My assertions are purely from personal experience so it may be anecdotal. I lived and worked in Malaysia (I encountered Chinese from the mainland), I would go to China for business and I have worked with Chinese and have had Chinese employees.

Young folks are free to have colonial pipe dreams about creating vassal states if they want to but the world is grateful the current Chinese leadership isn't entertaining the thought, they are men who were forged during the hard period and have seen the stupidity of interfering in sovereign affairs. No matter how much of a power you think you are empire building will drain you and create land mines in your periphery. They saw this with the Soviet Union and they see it in today's Russia and the USA.
 

Randomuser

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My assertions are purely from personal experience so it may be anecdotal. I lived and worked in Malaysia (I encountered Chinese from the mainland), I would go to China for business and I have worked with Chinese and have had Chinese employees.

Young folks are free to have colonial pipe dreams about creating vassal states if they want to but the world is grateful the current Chinese leadership isn't entertaining the thought, they are men who were forged during the hard period and have seen the stupidity of interfering in sovereign affairs. No matter how much of a power you think you are empire building will drain you and create land mines in your periphery. They saw this with the Soviet Union and they see it in today's Russia and the USA.
yeah... I expected as much.
 
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