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4Tran

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Reading the Congo deal, man china needs to work on their media platforms.

There should be shit loads of articles about how the US is pitching Africa against eachother.

Or at least china should have helped Congo more to get their minerals.

I mean is it really that easy for the US to play these games against these countries.

Now they are trying to impeach the Thai pro china govt. Com'on china, do something for God's sake.
There really isn't a whole lot that China could do in this situation. Most people are going to be unfamiliar with the Second Congo War and all the conflicts that are the offshoots from it. The short story that matters to this situation is that Rwanda and Rwanda-support rebels attacked DNC and captured a large portion of its lithium and other mineral resources. In this case, Rwanda has been heavily backed by the US and they are probably the finest fighting force in Africa. Unless China were to intervene militarily, DNC was either going to lose the war or at best let the war drag on indefinitely. And so this treaty is a natural outcome of this mess.

It's really about the difference between how the US works in Africa and how China does. Generally speaking, the Americans will do all sorts of horrible things and let vast numbers of people die in order to achieve their objectives whereas China plays the long games and makes government to government deals. It may seem that the US has picked up a major victory, but if you look at the overall trends, China (and Russia) have almost pushed Europe and the US out of Africa altogether. Any casual observer can see the differences in approach and notice that China has made massive gains using it in Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Central Asia, and South America so it ends up being much more effective. Also, China gets to avoid the endless wars that the American approach leads to.
 

TPenglake

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Saying Asians are doing better in America coz they earn more fails to adjust for education and career sector. The Asians who come tend to be from better backgrounds such as being rich, coming to do a masters, working in STEM. So of course they earn more money than the average white high school drop from Mississippi. If you're some Asian who went to MIT and works in silicon valley, you don't compared yourself to that guy, you compare yourself to your white peers who most likely are gonna be your boss.

Its why I find it stupid when you see Jai Hinds boasting that Indians earn the most in Americans. The vast majority of them are in H1B white collar tech jobs in high costs of living areas. Of course they will outlearn Cletus from Alabama. And yet even with their high salaries, they are there to somehow undercut salaries of tech workers which have even higher salaries which shows how high they are. Also have you noticed despite how high Indians are in earnings. there are very few of them in America who are truly wealthy? At least Chinese have people like Jensen Huang or Eric Yuan and a lot more of them came from poorer backgrounds, not white collar work.

Btw did you know Filipinos are also like the second or third highest earning ethnicity in America? Guess they are some master race huh? It can't be due to heavily inflated nursing salaries.
Since we're on this topic about exactly how much racism East Asians face in the US and their status I have this to say. For me, at least as of late, the 1st generations consist of people from all walks of life. You'll have Tsinghua educated types landing a prestigious FAANG job right out the gate, you'll have bumpkins who came through questionable means and have to scrape by delivering Temu packages in their personal minivans for Ontrac. The story plays out the same though that through hard work, rigorous parenting (for better or worse), and a value of education, second and third generations are able to be college graduates and enter the white collar field.

Stereotypes and discrimination plague East Asians in the work force, and yes there have been hate crimes against Asian Americans. But if we're talking the micro level for American born Asians, even if there are outliers it could be said most do live comfortably middle class lifestyles out of reach for that the vast majority of Americans. At least in my area many Asians are driving Teslas or some fancy German car, treat the Omakase restaurant scene as their own personal cafeteria, and work jobs with enough PTO to go on lavish European, Japanese, and Korean vacations 2-3 times a year. Living in high concentration Asian suburbs with low crime rates means too, many are insulated from some of the violence that usually take place in communities like Chinatown. It can be argued indeed, this is the reality most American born Asians live and made for themselves through hardwork.

However, there's another reality that they have to face and no amount of hard work will ever change, is being a minority. Emphasis on no amount of hardwork will ever change. I'm sure y'all are aware of all this bs about fighting for representation or what not. None of that matters! Jews in pre-Nazi Germany were not living in their own world like gypsies. To be blunt, they contributed far more to Germany than East Asians ever have to America. They were Nobel winners, gold medal Olympians, decorated war heroes, conductors, writers, etc. Simply put, no matter how good one has it, if you are a minority you live by the good graces of the dominant ethnic group.

Perhaps compared to other dominant ethnic groups in history, White Americans have been relatively more merciful towards its minorities, including Asians. But mercy, like patience, always has an expiration date, don't ever forget that.
 

plawolf

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Reading the Congo deal, man china needs to work on their media platforms.

There should be shit loads of articles about how the US is pitching Africa against eachother.

Or at least china should have helped Congo more to get their minerals.

I mean is it really that easy for the US to play these games against these countries.

Now they are trying to impeach the Thai pro china govt. Com'on china, do something for God's sake.

To be fair, Chinese state media is fighting with one hand tied behind its back because it is a representative of the Chinese government and people.

Not only does it need to go the extra mile to make sure it’s reports are as factually accurate as possible, it also needs to be mindful that it’s tone and opinions can very easily be taken by foreign governments and peoples as representing that of the Chinese government.

In this instance, Chinese media will be hard pressed to make this story about American-bad, since there is no irrefutable hard evidence of American government support for M23. And even if there was, heavy criticism of the deal will easily be interpreted as criticism of the DRC government and an attempt at interference in their internal affairs by the DRC, thereby damaging relations between China and DRC.

But you guys are all over reacting. The deal is just some words on a piece of paper, just like the Ukraine mineral deal. It means nothing until you can get the minerals out of the ground, processed and ship out. That’s a long and expensive process.

If China was minded to play dirty, it would be far easier and more profitable to wait a few years for the Americans to sink significantly capital into the region before doing a rugpull to sabotage the deal.
 

AssassinsMace

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No one would create a false quote...? Really? Every time the media quotes an unnamed source, the validity has to be questioned. Just goes to show how the West lies when they want to believe it. And they believe China organ harvests and still believes it because it gives them a excuse to hate. Would it be surprising that the same people who "believe in God" also think there's some unseen force that prevents the Western media from lying and they'll be punished if they do lie, so believe it because their tongue hasn't exploded into flames for lying...
 

AssassinsMace

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I'm seeing the typical Indian news outlets whine about China denying them rare earths now complaining about China denying India fertilizer. Is it sacrilegious for India to use cow dung? I'm always hearing how China needs countries like Canada for potash or else millions of Chinese will starve.

Maybe this is a part of how Indians think they're the master race like Westerners do but why in the hell are they complaining about their self-proclaimed enemy not helping them out on giving them what they need? It's like how they're also complaining how China is not selling them industrial technology to help India take away jobs in manufacturing Apple products. China doesn't need to help India in anything at all. Maybe next China will have to give India its rare earths refining technology too.
 

Iracundus

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Tech, finance, and medicine are the most desirable sectors in the US, so they are the best 3 sectors to anaylze in terms of opportunities for advancement. Furthermore, they are also by far the sectors that East Asians most commonly aspire to go into.

And expecting East Asians to receive the same opportunities as the dominant White population is an impossible and unreasonable expectation. There is not a single society/nation throughout history that offered equal opportunities to a minority group that was not the majority group and/or the group of the ruling elite.

What about Abe no Nakamaro (阿倍仲麻呂)?

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Japanese, took the Imperial exams, and rose through the ranks and became a governor. Friend of Li Bai and stayed in China for the rest of his life. Sure looks like meritocracy to me.
 

Randomuser

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I'm seeing the typical Indian news outlets whine about China denying them rare earths now complaining about China denying India fertilizer. Is it sacrilegious for India to use cow dung? I'm always hearing how China needs countries like Canada for potash or else millions of Chinese will starve.

Maybe this is a part of how Indians think they're the master race like Westerners do but why in the hell are they complaining about their self-proclaimed enemy not helping them out on giving them what they need? It's like how they're also complaining how China is not selling them industrial technology to help India take away jobs in manufacturing Apple products. China doesn't need to help India in anything at all. Maybe next China will have to give India its rare earths refining technology too.
Simple. Always assume it has an entitled mindset and it becomes a lot easier to understand. Thank the caste system that says you are of noble birth unconditionally for that. In hierarchy today for modern society, you can be born rich but if you lose it then you're nothing, it's not unconditional.

When you understand this, you get less outraged of how India acts and more prepared to counter it.

I recently saw a post on weibo that there are like 20,000 Indian students in China studying at low cost in stuff like Defense universities. At the very least, I don't think they should be studying at a low cost. Ideally there should be way less of them, you don't see IIT giving out low cost or free scholarships to Chinese people for IIT in large numbers do you. The role is always to help the Chinese citizens first and I don't see why we need to sacrifice them for some superpower. Let them take care of their own problems. Those boomers in the government have no brains sometimes.
 
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In this instance, Chinese media will be hard pressed to make this story about American-bad, since there is no irrefutable hard evidence of American government support for M23. And even if there was, heavy criticism of the deal will easily be interpreted as criticism of the DRC government and an attempt at interference in their internal affairs by the DRC, thereby damaging relations between China and DRC.
Also in this case, one can look at a Rwandan military parade to see this may not be the best thing for China to call attention to.
 

pmc

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An interesting video of Chinese Foreign Minister meeting Mujahedeen in Pakistan (starts at 7 Minutes 11 seconds) and video of Chinese Language Courses in Pakistan back in 1980's...It was vitally important to kick out Soviets from Afghanistan for US, China and most importantly Pakistan as they would have invaded us next.

Soviet never had any intention of going further thats why it was called introduction of Soviet limited contingent for supporting the system that was leftist. Afghans are very few countries that are not leftist.
The Iraqi government that Russia send military support after US with drawl did not support Crimea annexation while the Afghan government who didnot not have such expectations did it. This thing reveal some thing more.
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I can say this with complete confidence, because I feel it in my daily work and communication with Afghans, both with leaders and members of the government, and with ordinary people on the streets. Many Afghans still remember and speak Russian with pleasure. People appreciate all the good things we have done for this country, first of all, built, left for them to work.

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