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Chish

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This is supposed to be the game changing logistics corridor that cuts China out? Funny thing is, as another person mentioned, it still has to go through a Chinese owned port.

I don't quite understand this. This is a logistical nightmare. It requires continuous loadings and unloadings at many ports from ships, trains and trailers to reach Europe via so many countries. Wouldn't it be more practical and economical by just shipping the containers directly from India or Saudi Arabia to Europe via the Suze canal, thus bypassing all the other tolls and check points?

Yeah, the biggest container ships may not be able to pass through the canal, but how many freight wagons can they put on a single journey? And this assuming they all have the same track width.
 

horse

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I don't quite understand this.

You understand it correctly.

It is just a bad propaganda story, this or any Western lead infrastructure program to rival One Belt One Road.

Various forms of One Belt One Road has been ongoing for over decade now, China building infrastructure in the developing world.

These people in the think tanks and government offices, never had a real job in the real world ever in their entire lives.

Any peasant can tell them, if you want to build an outhouse, just build one at a convenient location. You need three outhouses?

China is building like 8 or more dams on the Mekong. Then will Americans will build another 8 more?

That is the whole point about building infrastructure, like roads, rails, ports, is the best locations will be used.

Did the best BRI projects settle for the second best location, so that they leave the best location for the West to build from there?

No. BRI projects took the best locations.

Even those pro-China Twitter could not even figure out this basic point, which any peasant in China would know.

Building infrastructure, like a canal to the fish pond, is all about location. Take the best location and build. That's it.

BRI beat them to the punch. They are just too late to get in the game, years ago.

Propaganda stories will not change that.

These stories are not legitimate.
 

james smith esq

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Maybe China should act like the Chinese don't need the West... Every time China tries to play kumbaya using the tactic that everyone needs each other, all that tells the West is how much China needs them because China is admitting it. The West doesn't admit that hence why they went through the whole "decoupling' and "cancelling" nonsense. Just look at how the Biden Administration acted when China didn't take their calls. Take a look at how the West is changing verbiage from "decoupling" to "de-risking". Why? Because they're afraid China will decouple from them. The West is essentially banning anything they have that China can't get anywhere else. Which means anything they want and are willing to sell to China so they can make money from the largest market in the world... China can get from somewhere else. That's what they're afraid of. These people are not grand strategists hence why they didn't think about their actions all the way through.

If you've notice every group that complains about white racism are looking to be accepted by whites so they can all live together in peace and harmony. And if you look at Asians they look to be accepted by the most racist right-wing whites because to them if you can get them to accept you that's the real prize and for some it makes them think they're closer to be white more than ever. You don't see white extremists seeking to live in peaceful coexistence with non-whites because they find non-whites worthless if they're not serving them. The criticism Biden is getting from them is they don't want the US begging for a call from China because they want to act like they don't need China so China comes begging to them. Just look at how much North Korea bugs them. They laugh and taunt North Korea as being the most isolated country in the world yet they're always going back to get annoyed by them. The goal of the West is to make everyone think the West is important to their lives so you don't do anything against them. You can't do that if you're not included. That's why they always go back to be bothered by North Korea. Just imagine if China, one-fifth of the human population on Earth doesn't bother? The West would absolutely go crazy if China didn't bother thinking about them. You saw a small taste of that when China didn't call...
Too many Chinese think like merchants and too many diaspora Chinese are patriots in words only; they’re actually most loyal to their corporate masters for giving them their highly-valued engineering and tech jobs!
As much as it pains me to say so, to me, it seems that China has already lost this great competition, based, solely on its integration into the dominating economic order. I doubt that it will ever achieve separation sufficient to politico-economic independence. In fact, despite this being what it absolutely needs, I don’t believe this is what China actually wants.

For one, China really needs to re-think its emphasis on verticality, in everything. Stacking millions of people into gruesome uber-vertical tenements is no way to create domestic demand for the many, varied, products that China produces. With my driveway, walkway, front-yard, front-porch, backyard, patio, and garage (like everybody in my neighborhood, and most in my city), I create more demand for Chinese products than any but the highest-class of Chinese. Why not take advantage of the incredible transportation tech that’s been developed and build some horizontal cities in some of that empty space in central-China? With all that high-speed rail tech, folks could easily commute to the nearest profit-generating centers. Emphasize the building of houses, not goddamn apartments! Houses with porches and patios filled with furniture, yards with gardens and with swings for kids, gazebos with strings of lights and lawn furniture, and surrounded by fences, garages filled with lawn-care products and tools for all kinds of projects and bikes for the kids, and for the family, to ride!

Stop being the goddamn merchant to the world and focus on being the merchant to China!
 
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Minm

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I didn't say they do, but it requires the onsite physical presence of both vessels(aircraft/ship/dingy/submarine/floating car/etc) to fit the naval textbook definition of the piracy. This is just the US government calling up the greek shipping company and telling them to divert the tanker. It's a form of seizing cargo, but not a high-seas piracy form of seizing cargo.
It's still theft and in the popular understanding, theft of the cargo of a ship is piracy. If I tell a captain of a cargo ship that I'll kidnap him and threaten his family unless he gives me the cargo he's carrying, then what exactly am I doing if you don't want to call it piracy?

Confiscation is when a state seizes private property over which it has jurisdiction. When the state does not have jurisdiction, it is simply stealing. The thieves aren't going to return the money they got from selling the oil, are they?

People have to stop repeating American narratives. When they do it, it's legal sanctions, when others do it it's illegal economic coercion. When they do it, it's legal seizure, when others do it it's illegal piracy. When they bomb someone it's a targeted drone strike, when others do it it's terrorism. When they take a person it's a lawful arrest, when others do it it's kidnapping. Etc

Stop the double standards. The US is a nation of thieves and terrorists who are threatening the international community
 

BlackWindMnt

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Too many Chinese think like merchants and too many diaspora Chinese are patriots in words only; they’re actually most loyal to their corporate masters for giving them their highly-valued engineering and tech jobs!
As much as it pains me to say so, to me, it seems that China has already lost this great competition, based, solely on its integration into the dominating economic order. I doubt that it will ever achieve separation sufficient to politico-economic independence. In fact, despite this being what it absolutely needs, I don’t believe this is what China actually wants.

For one, China really needs to re-think its emphasis on verticality, in everything. Stacking millions of people into gruesome uber-vertical tenements is no way to create domestic demand for the many, varied, products that China produces. With my driveway, walkway, front-yard, front-porch, backyard, patio, and garage (like everybody in my neighborhood, and most in my city), I create more demand for Chinese products than any but the highest-class of Chinese. Why not take advantage of the incredible transportation tech that’s been developed and build some horizontal cities in some of that empty space in central-China? With all that high-speed rail tech, folks could easily commute to the nearest profit-generating centers. Emphasize the building of houses, not goddamn apartments! Houses with porches and patios filled with furniture, yards with gardens and with swings for kids, gazebos with strings of lights and lawn furniture, and surrounded by fences, garages filled with lawn-care products and tools for all kinds of projects and bikes for the kids, and for the family, to ride!

Stop being the goddamn merchant to the world and focus on being the merchant to China!
It will come once the country side is developed, my dad told me how the dutch country side went from shitting in outhouses to owning 3~4 cars per household within like 40 years time.
 

Africablack

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Too many Chinese think like merchants and too many diaspora Chinese are patriots in words only; they’re actually most loyal to their corporate masters for giving them their highly-valued engineering and tech jobs!
As much as it pains me to say so, to me, it seems that China has already lost this great competition, based, solely on its integration into the dominating economic order. I doubt that it will ever achieve separation sufficient to politico-economic independence. In fact, despite this being what it absolutely needs, I don’t believe this is what China actually wants.

For one, China really needs to re-think its emphasis on verticality, in everything. Stacking millions of people into gruesome uber-vertical tenements is no way to create domestic demand for the many, varied, products that China produces. With my driveway, walkway, front-yard, front-porch, backyard, patio, and garage (like everybody in my neighborhood, and most in my city), I create more demand for Chinese products than any but the highest-class of Chinese. Why not take advantage of the incredible transportation tech that’s been developed and build some horizontal cities in some of that empty space in central-China? With all that high-speed rail tech, folks could easily commute to the nearest profit-generating centers. Emphasize the building of houses, not goddamn apartments! Houses with porches and patios filled with furniture, yards with gardens and with swings for kids, gazebos with strings of lights and lawn furniture, and surrounded by fences, garages filled with lawn-care products and tools for all kinds of projects and bikes for the kids, and for the family, to ride!

Stop being the goddamn merchant to the world and focus on being the merchant to China!
Nothing could be further from the truth.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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The government worker has been named, and he wasn't an ethnic Chinese.

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He worked for Alicia Kearns, who was part of an anti-China think tank, and more importantly, chair of the foreign affairs select committee. He anonymously released a statement denying it, and claiming he has only worked to educate about the threat China poses.

No point in speculating whether it's true or not, that will play out in court.
反华不彻底就是彻底不反华。

LMAO I was getting worried for that guy. Turns out it's just the NatSec establishment eating their own for having a slight hint of rationality.
 
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