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manqiangrexue

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As you have said, you don't care to talk about those Chinese that have decided to work and live in western countries. And maybe from that perspective you might have misunderstood my posts. In this post-chain I replied about Indians(western citizens) working in western multinational corporation in western countries and how Chinese people (western citizens) can learn something from those Indians and should also climb the corporate and political leaderships to help themselves and their community. There wasn't really anything about India, China and their citizens until you replied to my posts and inject them in.
No, I said I don't care to talk about the Chinese who remain in the US either because they have nothing to offer China or because they don't want to. Those who can leave this dump of discrimination against them and bring thier talents home are of much interest to me. But the others, if they want to stubbornly dig into a hostile environment like a redneck who always rebuilds right in the middle of Tornado Valley time and time again after he gets wrecked, that's their cup of tea. They're beyond help. Stand up or lay low; it's unimportant what else about them.
Yes, I do believe the continuous anti-China talk points from the like of Vivek and Nikki does megaphones and reinforces the anti-China trend in USA. And it continues to negatively affect Chinese products/services/business and Chinese people in USA.
That's because you fail to think about the deeper level of why things happen. The anti China trend has nothing to do with Indians talking shit. It's all about Western fear of Chinese growing power. Hence, it's a waste of time to talk about Indians beating a dead horse in the US. They talk smack about China because that's what America is doing, not the other way around. Indians bend to their environment; no matter what level they make it to, that remains true. They dare not bend their environment or the world like Chinese people do, even if we are more low key.
And yes, Indian workers/leaders/CEOs in western corporations does help India even if they themselves haven't moved back to India yet. They move back-office works to India, they bring Research and Development works to India, and they help develop connections with Indian business and universities.
India was ahead of China after WWII. Now they're decades behind China. Whatever "help" you imagine them giving back to India isn't worth a rat's ass hair. Hence my points, the Chinese way to keep a low profile but your country in your heart, is the right way compared to Indians immitating white people running their mouths while never looking back at where they were from.
Bull, Chinese people in China have made China a superpower and the Indians and Chinese living in the US and other countries have minimum influence and help for their mother countries, period.
Actually, the Chinese in the US and other countries have also made great contributions to China's rise by returning with what they've learned. Some of them even live very dangerous lives of continuing to do so while remaining in a hostile country. It's the Indians that treat going back like a death sentence that help no one but themselves.
 
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Biscuits

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India was ahead of China after WWII. Now they're decades behind China. Whatever "help" you imagine them giving back to India isn't worth a rat's ass hair. Hence my points, the Chinese way to keep a low profile but your country in your heart, is the right way compared to Indians immitating white people running their mouths while never looking back at where they were from.
India was "ahead" only in the loosest sense of China being bombed out from WW2, the same way a shitty south american slum town would have been ahead of Hamburg at the end of WW2.

Once China recovered, things almost instantly converged back to the historical usual.

Hint: one of the countries/culture is and always remained a player in the great game of hegemony, while the other is a collection of tribes, occasionally unified in slavery by different foreigners.

For all the things one can laugh at about the anglo, they are an empire building culture who can become peer or near peer to China, depending on how much China neglects it's own situation. The Indian civilization is however not even in the same class, hence even now, India can't choose a coherent foreign policy, properly deal with it's internal troubles and create an independent goods sector worthy of modernity.
 
I guess that's where we differs. I believe Chinese people and their issues on anywhere in the world is worth my time talk/care about, especially if they are facing discrimination and injustice.
People face discrimination and injustice everywhere. It happens to people of all ethnicities in the US, just as minorities in other nations do. Does Indian's being CEOs help them get discriminated any less in the US? It does not, just as more Chinese CEO's won't help lessen the discrimination/injustice of Chinese in the US.
As you have said, you don't care to talk about those Chinese that have decided to work and live in western countries. And maybe from that perspective you might have misunderstood my posts. In this post-chain I replied about Indians(western citizens) working in western multinational corporation in western countries and how Chinese people (western citizens) can learn something from those Indians and should also climb the corporate and political leaderships to help themselves and their community. There wasn't really anything about India, China and their citizens until you replied to my posts and inject them in.


Yes, I do believe the continuous anti-China talk points from the like of Vivek and Nikki does megaphones and reinforces the anti-China trend in USA. And it continues to negatively affect Chinese products/services/business and Chinese people in USA.

And yes, Indian workers/leaders/CEOs in western corporations does help India even if they themselves haven't moved back to India yet. They move back-office works to India, they bring Research and Development works to India, and they help develop connections with Indian business and universities.
You are just so out of touch with reality and how society works that its pointless arguing. University student that haven't been out in the real world yet?
 

SDtom

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No, I said I don't care to talk about the Chinese who remain in the US either because they have nothing to offer China or because they don't want to.
And I said I care about the Chinese who remained in other countries for whatever reason even as they can/unable to offer anything to China. And it was from that perspective that I started talking about Indian (western country citizens) and Chinese (western country citizens) in western countries, like USA. You misinterpreted and started to talk about Indian citizens and India vs Chinese citizens and China.
 

pmc

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It is more like all establishment parties are run-of-the-mill atlanticist, cultural universalist, liberal parties. When you don't subscribe to universalism or don't want your country to serve American interests, leaving China alone becomes the no-brainer action. But ofc Germany being Germany these are inakzeptabel for the mainstream establishment. They still couldn't name anybody for the NordStream. Someone blew up a 20 billion EUR infrastructure in a European inland sea and they couldn't be even named. We all know who that someone is. Germany with its current establishment is effectively a US colony. Compared to this any other option is pro-seeseepee by default.
They cannot name it because most probably it is done at direction of Germany. Scholz says i am in lockstep with US but it does not mean he is in lockstep on every issue. he think every one else is dumb.
 

SDtom

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People face discrimination and injustice everywhere. It happens to people of all ethnicities in the US, just as minorities in other nations do. Does Indian's being CEOs help them get discriminated any less in the US? It does not, just as more Chinese CEO's won't help lessen the discrimination/injustice of Chinese in the US.

Then these minorities needs to stand up, speak up and fight back to make a differences. Rise up to the power positions in the country and craft corporate and political policies to minimize and punish these discrimination. If you do nothing, you get nothing.

In the USA, I do believe that with more Indian/Chinese CEO and politicians they can at least have the ability and power to fight back discrimination and negative policies against them and their communities. Like, with an Indian/Chinese CEO/leader in a company will have less discrimination against Indians/Chinese.

could have against something like this:
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or even this if Chinese-American had more political power then:

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supercat

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The Lion, the witch and this audacity of this bitch. Never has such a term carried so much meaning as it does right now. Seriously, the audacity of Baerbock continuely being a retard and being rewarded. If only the Germany get the courage to hang her by the ass but I guess Germany as a collective have already lost its balls.

It's a good thing that the Green is polling at the fourth place at the moment.

Vivek Ramaswamy is a sociopath like many of the Western politicians are. Specifically, he swindled billions from investors.

The Western MSM, such as the Economist's badmouthing of Chinese economy is just projection.

Karma for Fukushima?
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manqiangrexue

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And I said I care about the Chinese who remained in other countries for whatever reason even as they can/unable to offer anything to China. And it was from that perspective that I started talking about Indian (western country citizens) and Chinese (western country citizens) in western countries, like USA. You misinterpreted and started to talk about Indian citizens and India vs Chinese citizens and China.
No I didn't misinterpret anything. Everything we go off topic it's because you lost the last argument and drifted into a new one to escape it, which you'll lose again. I said your idolization of an Indian style that essentially limits a people to being rats trying to live in a lion's den is misplaced; the real idols are the people who build up their own country. This is where we started and this is where you began to make several indefensible statements about your imaginary future where super smart Indians go home to a developed India to serve it. You should make the next Jai Hind white servant video with your imagination LOL
Then these minorities needs to stand up, speak up and fight back to make a differences. Rise up to the power positions in the country and craft corporate and political policies to minimize and punish these discrimination. If you do nothing, you get nothing.

In the USA, I do believe that with more Indian/Chinese CEO and politicians they can at least have the ability and power to fight back discrimination and negative policies against them and their communities. Like, with an Indian/Chinese CEO/leader in a company will have less discrimination against Indians/Chinese.

could have against something like this:
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or even this if Chinese-American had more political power then:

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More rat-in-a-lion's-den mentality talking about how best to live in other's homes. Pathetic. The more Asians are discriminated against in the US, the better it is for China's talent recruitment. I'm happy to let it thrive.
 
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