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broadsword

Brigadier
In their dreams, Larry Page and Sergei Brin is in firm control of Google. Sundar Pichai is just a middle manager.

They may be in control, but do they actively intervene in the running of the business, or do they sit back and monitor the results? If they are like most founders, they do not bother with the personnel issues unless there are strong feedbacks/complaints.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I notice this with Black-Americans is they lump people as Chinese. I’m not talking all just Asians. A while ago there was an incident that got national attention where a black couple was pulled over by police in a car. The woman apparently suspicious of the police pulled out her smartphone and live- steamed the event. The officer ended up shooting the man and killing him live on the internet. The angry woman went on TV describing the officer as Chinese. When the news finally showed a picture of the officer, he wasn’t Chinese. He wasn’t or didn’t even look Asian. He was Hispanic.

Another example was during the last summer Olympics. There was a controversial black US female track and field athlete. She was outspoken and gave her opinion on things that also didn’t include the Olympics. For some reason she criticized about a “Chinese” fashion trend of wearing regular shoe socks and high heels together. Personally I agree that looks ugly but since when is there an interest in “Chinese” fashion trends in the US for this woman to know. The only people I’ve happened to have seen wearing socks and high heels were Korean women. Is this the same thing going on here?
 
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Sardaukar20

Captain
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My personal opinion as European. China is making the same mistake with the European Union that Russia was doing during decades.
The European Union countries will never chose China above US. Neither the elites neither the normal folks.

All their efforts will end in China being stabbed back as Russia was fully stabbed back with Minks agreements and other staff

Also this though of the "crucial market" is absurd. EU was also a crucial market for Russia gas. Who is suffering more, Russia or the UE?

Only reason that Chinese goods are sold in European union is because they are very competitive in price and help to increase the level of live here.

If our government (the EU) would suppress Chinese goods it would only result in a tremendous drop in the standards of life here.

All those Chinese staff only allows Europeans to pretend they (we) are rich and spend money in supporting Taiwan or in creating bad narratives about Xinjiang.
While I agree that the West can never be trusted. China is not making the same mistakes as the Russians, or its older self. The last time when China was naive about the West was at the beginning of the Trump presidency. So China is already well seasoned with the antics of the West. Then why does it still wanna keep its relationship with the EU strong? Because China can see the bigger picture. Filter out the noises coming from the clowns in Europe like Ursula the Witch, Borell the Garderner, and Baerbock the 360. Those clowns don't put food on the table. Its the business people and working class in Europe who do, and they desperately need China's market. China is approaching Europe today from a position of immense strength. That strength was gifted to China by those idiot European politicians. China's bargaining power has never been stronger. China had always been shrewd in business, and now is the best time to look for good deals. Never in its history could China so easily convinced BASF to setup its largest chemical plant outside of Germany in China, until the Ukraine War occurred. The carmakers in Germany, opposed tariffs being levied against Chinese EV cars. It is unimaginable for China to have this much leverage over them prior to the Ukraine War. So while the doors of trade and commerce remains open, China is not wrong to make deals with the Europeans, especially when it enjoys so much leverage. China couldn't care less about the politics in Europe. Unlike the US, European politics are more noisy than harmful. I know its very different for Russia, but that is for another discussion.

All that trade between China and the EU is not negative thing for Russia either. Russia had never pushed away European trade, it was the European politicians who killed trade with Russia. So for now, China is helping to redirect the flow of some goods from the EU to Russia. It is a workaround to satisfy buyers in Russia, and sellers in Europe.

Now is there a chance that the Europeans politicians would do the unthinkable and to cut off trade with China? Absolutely. When that day comes, it comes. China would just let the Europeans shoot themselves in the foot. They have already kneecapped themselves when they cut themselves off Russian energy. The neo-colonies in Africa are starting to kick them out. Their support for Israel is hurting their already horrendous image in the Middle East and Muslims around the world. And then later, they wanna cut trade with their most important customer? What else could go wrong?
 
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Randomuser

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While I agree that the West can never be trusted. China is not making the same mistakes as the Russians and its older self. The last time when China was naive about the West was at the beginning of the Trump presidency. So China is already well seasoned with the antics of the West. So why does it still wanna keep its relationship with the EU strong? Because China can see the bigger picture. Filter out the noises coming from the clowns in Europe like Ursula the Witch, Borell the Garderner, and Baerbock the 360. Those clowns don't put food on the table. Its the business people and working class in Europe who do, and they desperately need China's market. China is approaching Europe today from a position of immense strength. That strength was gifted to China by those idiot European politicians. China's bargaining power has never been stronger. China had always been shrewd in business, and now is the best time to look for good deals. Never in its history could China so easily convinced BASF to setup its largest chemical plant outside of Germany in China, until the Ukraine War occurred. The carmakers in Germany, opposed tariffs being levied against Chinese EV cars. It is unimaginable for China to have this much leverage over them prior to the Ukraine War. So while the doors of trade and commerce remains open, China is not wrong to make deals with the Europeans, especially when it enjoys so much leverage. China couldn't care less about the politics in Europe. Unlike the US, European politics are more noisy than harmful. I know its very different for Russia, but that is for another discussion.

All that trade between China and the EU is not negative thing for Russia either. Russia had never pushed away European trade, it was the European politicians who killed trade with Russia. So for now, China is helping to redirect the flow of some goods from the EU to Russia. It is a workaround to satisfy buyers in Russia, and sellers in Europe.

Now is there a chance that the Europeans politicians would do the unthinkable and to cut off trade with China? Absolutely. When that day comes, it comes. China would just let the Europeans shoot themselves in the foot. They have already kneecapped themselves when they cut themselves off Russian energy. The neo-colonies in Africa are starting to kick them out. Their support for Israel is hurting their already horrendous image in the Middle East and Muslims around the world. And then later, they wanna cut trade with their most important customer? What else could go wrong?
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
My personal opinion as European. China is making the same mistake with the European Union that Russia was doing during decades.
The European Union countries will never chose China above US. Neither the elites neither the normal folks.

All their efforts will end in China being stabbed back as Russia was fully stabbed back with Minks agreements and other staff

Also this though of the "crucial market" is absurd. EU was also a crucial market for Russia gas. Who is suffering more, Russia or the UE?

Only reason that Chinese goods are sold in European union is because they are very competitive in price and help to increase the level of live here.

If our government (the EU) would suppress Chinese goods it would only result in a tremendous drop in the standards of life here.

All those Chinese staff only allows Europeans to pretend they (we) are rich and spend money in supporting Taiwan or in creating bad narratives about Xinjiang.

China has no delusions about the true nature and allegiance of the EU, but China is also polite and acts as a responsible world superpower. That means it would be incredibly out of character for it to not support a call for a global truce to all wars, not just the Russian-Ukraine war.

But talk is cheap, it’s what China does that really matter and China isn’t going to do more than pay lip service to the truce. If the Russians say ‘Nyet Comrade’, China will just wink and shrug exaggeratedly and tell France it tried.

If you read between the lines and look at what China is doing, it is actually actively working against the EU and focusing on bilateral relations and negotiations with individual nation states.

Cruella Dor Lying can’t be at every meeting, and nothing of substance would be discussed during meetings she 3rd wheels anyways, as that’s just an annoying formality requirement. The real talks will only take place once she has had her photo lol and been brushed off.

China is seeking to fracture the EU into die hard American puppets and real countries that can recognise and defend their own national interests.

It’s a long shot, but it’s basically a free shot so why the hell not? Worst case it buys China more time and allows China to focus more on the U.S. instead of having to fight a two front war.
 

Chevalier

Senior Member
Registered Member
Oh boy do I have something y'all are gonna enjoy. Firstly, western white woman feminism is a complete fucking joke. Straight from the horse's mouth:

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Icon of second-wave feminism was a glowie. Ever wondered why class is never discussed by western feminists?
There’s a reason the cia uses feminist groups in universities as access points for demonstrations and influence operations. On a civilisation level, the 4b movement could well have been a cia feminist promoted op against asians with the hope that it would spread to China but ended up backfiring and spreading to the entire west. In China feminist influencers of the 3rd wave 4b movement variety were throttled or had their accounts deleted whilst Chinese feminism of the Chinese revolution was promoted, emphasising women hold up half the sky with being a mother and accomplished in career.
While I agree that the West can never be trusted. China is not making the same mistakes as the Russians, or its older self. The last time when China was naive about the West was at the beginning of the Trump presidency. So China is already well seasoned with the antics of the West. Then why does it still wanna keep its relationship with the EU strong? Because China can see the bigger picture. Filter out the noises coming from the clowns in Europe like Ursula the Witch, Borell the Garderner, and Baerbock the 360. Those clowns don't put food on the table. Its the business people and working class in Europe who do, and they desperately need China's market. China is approaching Europe today from a position of immense strength. That strength was gifted to China by those idiot European politicians. China's bargaining power has never been stronger. China had always been shrewd in business, and now is the best time to look for good deals. Never in its history could China so easily convinced BASF to setup its largest chemical plant outside of Germany in China, until the Ukraine War occurred. The carmakers in Germany, opposed tariffs being levied against Chinese EV cars. It is unimaginable for China to have this much leverage over them prior to the Ukraine War. So while the doors of trade and commerce remains open, China is not wrong to make deals with the Europeans, especially when it enjoys so much leverage. China couldn't care less about the politics in Europe. Unlike the US, European politics are more noisy than harmful. I know its very different for Russia, but that is for another discussion.

All that trade between China and the EU is not negative thing for Russia either. Russia had never pushed away European trade, it was the European politicians who killed trade with Russia. So for now, China is helping to redirect the flow of some goods from the EU to Russia. It is a workaround to satisfy buyers in Russia, and sellers in Europe.

Now is there a chance that the Europeans politicians would do the unthinkable and to cut off trade with China? Absolutely. When that day comes, it comes. China would just let the Europeans shoot themselves in the foot. They have already kneecapped themselves when they cut themselves off Russian energy. The neo-colonies in Africa are starting to kick them out. Their support for Israel is hurting their already horrendous image in the Middle East and Muslims around the world. And then later, they wanna cut trade with their most important customer? What else could go wrong?
The choice for Europeans is really binary: Is white supremacy worth their first world living standards?

Going with the Anglos means white supremacy uber alles, it means a new iron curtain across those who are 'white' and in the garden and those outside in the jungle.
Back when Trump started his trade war, the expectation from the europeans was that they could profit from it like another Opium War and Unequal Treaty to get their share of china's domestic market; when it became apparent that even europeans were in the crosshairs of Trump, they quickly came around but even that wasn't enough for them to sanction China at the expense of CAI.
 

CasualObserver

Junior Member
Registered Member
Michael Pettis making screeching noises
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I don't agree with everything China does, but it is pretty frustrating to see non-Americans jump on the "Chyna overkaPacity!1!" bandwagon without first looking at the facts. If it's overcapacity when it comes to them, then what is it called when we also do it?

It's literally called free-trade, the thing that the West is supposedly the self-claimed champion of.

On an another note, it's also depressing and kinda ironic to see us become the next closed-economy camp (without the self-sufficiency, of course).

Globalisation hasn't failed, the West is just too darn blind and stubborn to adapt to changes.
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
It is pretty frustrating to see non-Americans jump on the "Chyna overkaPacity!1!" bandwagon without first looking at the facts. If it's overcapacity when it comes to them, then what is it called when we also do it?

It's literally called free-trade, the thing that the West is supposedly the self-claimed champion of.

On an another note, it's also depressing and kinda ironic to see us become the next closed-economy camp (without the self-sufficiency, of course).

Globalisation hasn't failed, the West is just too darn blind and stubborn to adapt to changes.

They are just butthurt that they got out-Capitalisted by supposed Communists.
 

Serb

Junior Member
Registered Member
I don't agree with everything China does, but it is pretty frustrating to see non-Americans jump on the "Chyna overkaPacity!1!" bandwagon without first looking at the facts. If it's overcapacity when it comes to them, then what is it called when we also do it?

It's literally called free-trade, the thing that the West is supposedly the self-claimed champion of.

On an another note, it's also depressing and kinda ironic to see us become the next closed-economy camp (without the self-sufficiency, of course).

Globalisation hasn't failed, the West is just too darn blind and stubborn to adapt to changes.


There is no overcapacity, there is just over-anxiety in the West as they are incapable of competing against China in results objectively. This official said it best:






The US and EU also have protectionism measures and subsidies it is just that they are so socio-politically, and economically terminally rotten and corrupt that no such policy produces tangible results for them, whereas Chinese initiatives all succeed regularly (5-year plans, without a miss).

Liberal democracy is chaotic and inefficient fairy tale bullshit system. Their citizens don't want to work in factories, nor can they build infrastructure like China, they don't study STEM, and they don't control their big capital, as China does, so then they complain and whine while losing in the real economy.

As their industrial policies are deemed to fail from the start, any tariffs on Chinese products they might put just mean higher inflation in the economy (no alternative replacements).

On the other hand, you don't see this bullshit low IQ, envious and incompetent logic coming from the Global South, because the current account surplus that China gets from them, it returns in the form of more accessible BRI loans, infrastructure know-how and development, high-value manufacturing FDI, etc.

Whereas the US has a huge capital account surplus (meaning that they take capital from the RoW), China has the opposite basically.

Also, China doesn't just export end consumer goods, but also intermediate goods, and capital goods, which those countries could use for their own manufacturing and boost GDP and economic activity (through both new exports for themselves or the inner economy).

But, even in consumer goods, let's say China, using its automation and economies of scale, produces and exports them 5-10 times less expensive cars, home appliances, consumer electronics, etc, than they bought from the Western overpriced manufacturers before.

That means that those consumers from the Global South, now have all that free money to spend on something else, boost the local economy, and enjoy a higher standard of living. Not to mention, that some people could also afford those types of products for the first time now maybe. Truly a win-win cooperation.
 
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