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Abominable

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Hah. The Mercedes and Volkswagen factories in Russia basically just did final assembly. Things like engines, well most components, were all imported. So if you are interested in having an empty building with an assembly line for final assembly and little else, plus a lot of willing workers, you can have it. Did you expect something like that to be bought for much? The whole place is a huge liability. The state will probably have to pay unemployment benefits for these people for months. Just not right now because they have their severance package. Russia is not like those "at will" states in the US. At least not since the wild 1990s.

The Renault plant, or should I say Lada plant at Togliatti, it is different. But still pretty hairy. Renault was switching Lada from using a Russian designed car platform, to their own common platform. So guess what, lots of imported electronics (even things like windshield wiper sensors), airbags, transmissions, etc. Sure the chassis, paint, and engine is Russian. But little else. The transmission was supposedly assembled in Russia but used imported parts. Even the steering wheel was imported. So, Lada basically switched production to the car they were producing before acquisition by Renault, should be rolling off the assembly lines next month. The Renault plant at Moscow was just another assembly line for imported Renault group crap.

The only car factories which had no shutdowns were the Chinese ones. Great Wall i.e. Haval and Chery. The South Korean car factories had a short stoppage, but then decided to continue. Hyundai group already had decent enough production cycle where engine assembly was done in Russia. Great Wall is also expected to start assembling engines in Russia this year.

The Russian state gave car manufacturers tax benefits on a sliding scale the more Russian content the factories put in the cars. But a lot of them were not using that much native content yet. And modern vehicle electronics in general are a bugbear basically.

In the long run Lada will either find new partners or make their own vehicle platform. But making a new vehicle platform takes quite some time. Years. They got the guys who made the Aurus car, NAMI, working on it. But I think at least some of the other plants will be closed and some might be sold to other car manufacturers. Who knows, maybe Indian or Chinese ones. A lot of people in the government are getting kind of chaffed at foreign car manufacturers in general though.
Hyundai cars are just as good as any European car these days. As long as they're still available you'll be fine. Chinese cars have made massive strides in the past few years. If you want to go electric rebadging Chinese models with old Soviet models may not be a bad idea. That's what European car manufacturers are starting to do anyway, you may as well jump before being pushed.

Remember car sales are down big time in the west as well. This isn't like the 80s when the west was booming and USSR was in terminal decline. COVID, Brexit and the microchip shortage means VW and other big manufacturers are going to need bailouts to survive. I heard a third of their global income comes from China alone, you can bet that is now on a timer.

Russia is going to suffer, but that's largely because of the legacy of Yeltsin and early years Putin. At least you won't starve and won't face domestic political unrest.
 

56860

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Comrade Trump did it again

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Twitter user @HopeOverFear99 demands all American women, including wives, to stop having sex.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Unfortunately, this will include even many Chinese capitalists.
nobody has any illusions about the true nature of the capitalists. it was well known that at the tail end of Hu Jintao's tenure that they had allowed enemies to infiltrate the government, party, strategic corporations, etc. Hu did Xi one big last favor - liquidating all the foreign spies - at the end of his term. They were trying so, so hard to get a color revolution going in the early Xi years and so many ran away to foreign countries before Xi's 2nd term. They've failed, so far.
 

Rettam Stacf

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Germany is taking some major Ls from its supposed "allies".
Comrade Scholz has been doing some good work lately. IMO he should be promoted if he manages to make Germany go into winter without Russian gas
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To me, this is another Meng Wanzhou incidence except it is now a turbine, and as before, on US behalf.
 

Chish

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H&M's problem is they thought their standing as a Western brand was more important to the Chinese than their insult to the Chinese and that would save them. If they were truly a company of conscience, they wouldn't be in China at all. But they're in China because that's what they believed. You better believe they regret it even though they'll spin it as they put their conscience above money because they have nothing to lose now since they lost it already.

Now you have the New York Times trying to spin that rare earths sourced to make EV batteries in China come from Xinjiang which means it must be slave labor. Even the New York Times said it themselves that there are "red flags" meaning they haven't confirmed it or else it wouldn't be red flags and instead a matter of fact. All it'll do is make EVs in the US more expensive using already inferior US battery technology in a country wary of EVs in the first place and on top of that cost too much money. Translation... Less EVs are sold in the US meaning less money for R&D to further EV technologies. Chinese EV makers have had no access to the US yet leading the world in EV technologies. Why? Because Chinese don't need the US market to be successful meaning the US has no power to stop it.
Nothing morally wrong in doing business in China. Problem with H&M is that they assumed China is guilty without doing unbiased on site investigations. Besides they should not ban cottons from Uyghurs' owned and run business.
 

supercat

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The Pentagon now openly disobeys the SCOTUS' ruling. We are really living in interesting times.

Today is the 72nd anniversary of the start of the Korea War. To this day, many Koreans, including South Koreans, hate the U.S., because as Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay admitted, U.S. bombing killed 20% of the Korean population.

Why Do North Koreans Hate Us? One Reason — They Remember the Korean War.​

Americans may not remember the devastating impact of U.S. bombing raids on civilian targets, but North Koreans cannot forget it.
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As some of us suspected, preliminary study seems to indicate that Indians do have the smallest brains in the world (probably caused by malnutrition), although more study is needed.

Indians have smallest brains in the world, reveals IIIT-Hyderabad study after creating brain atlas​

A study by IIIT Hyderabad created the first brain atlas for Indians and found that Indians have some of the smallest brains in the world -- much smaller compared to Caucasians and Chinese.

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