That's the worst negotiating proposal I have ever seen. Not even Donald Trump would make such a deal...
That's like selling hypersonics technology to the US for the promise of the US being peaceful. Absurd
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That's like selling hypersonics technology to the US for the promise of the US being peaceful. Absurd
The Japanese, which are known for deception, can always renege on it after getting into the UNSC. The right way to play Japan is to extract concessions from Japan. In the process of doing so, the whole world will be re-educated on Japan's WWII war crimes. Of course they will not concede. But by then Japan will have a hard time defending their reputation.
No can do bud. A war criminal of a country one that remains unrepentant of their crimes against Asian countries and top on the list of victimized countries is China must not and can't be allowed to become part of the permanent member of the U.N. perhaps India if it were to renounce any military alliance with any country, especially an alliance with America. We all know that's going to be a difficult proposition for India to accept.
No, it doesn't. It only makes the topic of independence become more popular within the population which is already popular anyways. In the end, the matter of independence is decided and considered by the administration of Taiwan, which is why China should be focused on increasing the risk associated with declaring independence and gaining influence within the administration through bribery and espionage, infiltrating Taiwan's society and embedding sleeper agents to cause civil arrest and/or sabotage when needed. Their entire strategy rest on whether the leaders in Taiwan is as stupid as Zelensky.
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Nah. China could support them but Russia will reject it since Japan is an unfriendly country.
AssassinsMace
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Vietnam shares Western values...? That tells you the the West isn't so anti-authoritarian as they claim. The Chinese are bothered by semantics. Don't bother. All these groupings the US is starting to counter China are worthless. China is a one billion plus continent-size market. Does anyone think greedy power hungry Westerners would leave it alone? This is a scare tactic with the sole goal of making China surrender to Western demands. The US is no longer giving more trade access to the US to get countries to join their alliances. So what is the US offering? Cut up China like a pie and give a piece to all that went along like the West did after the Opium Wars?
The West likes to use speculation to send threats. For instance talking about cancelling China like they did Russia. Or how about threating their military prowess when in a war with China they'll most like suffer more dead than ever in any war they've engaged in. When Americans say sinking a US aircraft carrier deserves a nuclear response, that's why it should be advertised by China as a top priority target. Why doesn't China do that? There are so many mistakes the US and the West have committed that China could've exploited and yet they didn't. Why? Because the Chinese think they're better than that? Because they think they're too civilized? Or maybe because there are some in Beijing who think they can still salvage being accepted by the West so they don't do it because it might get Westerners angry to give them a taste of their own medicine. If you don't deliver the consequences to Westerners of what they'll suffer, there will be no second thoughts for them because they think there will be no costs. And when it doesn't go there way, they'll be more angry instead of not being self-reflective by heeding any warnings given by the Chinese.
If that's too strong for some Chinese how about telling the West straight up that all their inflation woes are a snowball effect because of their trade war with China. I'm no economist and I foresaw it because it's not hard to see through all their lies hiding that the only reason why their supply lines go to China is because they're cheap bastards exploiting the cheapest cost to them so they can make every penny they can and not because Westerners are humanitarians looking to help poor people around the world by giving them jobs like they fool themselves into believing. If they try to change that no matter what they do, it will always cost them more money hence more inflation. The reason why they're not in Vietnam or India already is because it'll cost them more money. Do they think China is pointing a gun to their heads forcing them to outsource to China? They're there on their own free will. I wouldn't be worrying about how China is being left out because no matter what... it's going cost them more money. Americans wouldn't be complaining about inflation if they were told this was a result of their trade war with China. The powers in the US don't want that being known because they have an agenda against China where they would be voted out of office if that connection was made clear.
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I wanna say that there's nothing China can do to deter US from doing these moves, not because China is weak or US is strong, its because the US have more to gain than to lose if they don't these actions, we need to stop thinking how China should deter US and instead how China should advance their interest which will naturally counter US' containment goal. Their hegemony has already been diminished, and a multipolar world is now forming as we see smaller nations now playing both sides and reaping benefit with less risk, unlike before when US enjoys unquestioned authority and unanimous support on all their destructive and exploitative policies, and those that stand before them gets Iraq'd. China shouldn't pay much attention to them, instead they should focus on deepening relationship with other countries, while developing new ones even with enemies that are hostile to them. This how multipolar world operates, further globalization and integration between countries, preventing blocs and clique from forming, in contrast to a unipolar world where it us against them.
At the end of the day, NO jobs are returning to the US and more competitors will be created against US industries as the poorer Asian countries get richer.
And further dependence on foreign imports, making them more vulnerable to disruption if Asia becomes unstable from events such as the armed reunification of Taiwan.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I would love if China could just ignore the US but it doesn't. Even though US power is diminishing, Chinese still want some respect from the US. I've told this story before where I was a friend's party. They had a daughter that was intentionally annoying the guests one by one. You can tell everyone was bothered but they didn't say anything. She finally got to me and I ignored her for the moment and when she wasn't satisfied that I didn't give the attention she expected, she started hitting me with a bean bag toy she was holding. I took the bean bag away from her and she was angry and said, "I hate you!" And then I said, "Good I love it when you hate me." She was shocked and started crying and walked away never bothering anyone again. Did I do something wrong? Did I abuse a child? No, she was upset because I didn't respond as expected. She expected me to be upset at her hating me and she surely didn't expect joy from being hated by her. It did not compute in her young mind so all she could do was retreat. The US is that arrogant daughter. Ignoring is not enough. They have to know the consequences and the best ones are the ones they don't expect. Does anyone think Americans would care if they sunk a Chinese carrier and killed hundreds of Chinese? No, they would be celebrating. It's not surprising they would expect the opposite if one of their carriers were sunk. That's the lopsided relationship they expect and it should be thrown in their face that those are legitimate targets simply because the US would not hold back in targeting a Chinese carrier.
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