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Phead128

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Trump was the product of the increasing number of "minority" vs whites in the US. It will likely be some chaos between now and then.

Asians are really the minority and they have their own disagreements from their ethnic homeland (ie viet vs chinese vs hk vs taiwan vs koreans etc) so they will have the biggest disadvantage.
Nah, the Asians in US stick together. I'm from HK, my best friends in elementary school was Tibetan and Japanese and Black. In highschool, my best friends was Half-Vietnamese and Mainland Chinese. We know when to stick together. White Americans can't tell the difference between different Asian ethnicities, so there is a tendency to overlook the petty historical shit back home. Otherwise, we are fucked. But I agree, we aren't united as like Hispanics as a single monolithic block. But we can smell white racism from miles away.
 

PeoplesPoster

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Lol this comment belies the fundamental difference between the arrogant attitude of then Qing Dynasty to what I and others are arguing for China not to do. What was denied or not welcomed during the Qing Dynasty was the exchange of "SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE" blindly and arrogantly assuming that there's nothing the west (represented by Britain) can offer the Emperor. We are not advocating to shut off the exchange of ideas period. As I have explicitly said on my earlier post was "China must learn/adopt that works from any western sources discard things that don't apply or can't work in China."

If you're pro-immigration because you assumed that it'll be a net positive to the country, I respectfully disagree.
But what you and fangyuan describe is a purely transactional relationship. The system you describe only looks to extract knowledge from foreign talent without creating a ecosystem wherein they want to live and stay long term. This ends up creating less than ideal work environment and no staying capability of attracting and retaining talented individuals. In the end China is once again left out of a global talent pool.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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But what you and fangyuan describe is a purely transactional relationship. The system you describe only looks to extract knowledge from foreign talent without creating a ecosystem wherein they want to live and stay long term. This ends up creating less than ideal work environment and no staying capability of attracting and retaining talented individuals. In the end China is once again left out of a global talent pool.
Which talent pool is that and which country do they mostly come from?

Was the discoveries in pre-industrial revolution and during the industrial revolution in the west a by product of immigration? When Japan almost managed to beat the Americans back in the 80's was that due to Japan’s immigration policies?
 

AssassinsMace

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Where I live there were incidents where elderly Asians out for a walk get robbed of their jewelry. Answer... Don't wear your jewelry out on a walk but it keeps on happening despite it being reported on the news. There was a story on the radio I just heard yesterday where elderly Indians out for a walk are getting robbed up and down the state of California because they wear jewelry worth tens of thousands of dollars on them. Some say they do it for cultural reasons. You mean showing off your wealth to say how you're better than other people? Getting robbed then is sort of like you got it coming.
 

FangYuan

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Somehow the recommendation of attracting global talent can benefit China gets interpreted as “China can’t innovate due to lack of freedom” lol.
But what you and fangyuan describe is a purely transactional relationship. The system you describe only looks to extract knowledge from foreign talent without creating a ecosystem wherein they want to live and stay long term. This ends up creating less than ideal work environment and no staying capability of attracting and retaining talented individuals. In the end China is once again left out of a global talent pool.


You ignore the western prejudice and attitude against China.

Look at this scenario. It is very familiar, right?

- Ethnic Minorities Kidnap, Rape and Kill Han People -> Freedom Fighters
Han People Train Ethnic Minority -> Cultural Genocide, Brainwashing, Fascists

- Hire Ethnic Minorities to Work -> Slave Labor and the Company Will Be Punished
Do Not Hire Ethnic Minorities to Work -> Racism and the Company Will Be Condemned


Similar logic will happen to the "global talent" in China. But this time it is a foreigner and the Chinese. In all scripts, China is always a villain. And worse, all Chinese inventions and technology, will be labeled as foreign achievements, invented by foreigners.

Remember the case of J-10
Israel Ever Supported China During The J-10 Development Process, and The West Then Announced That J-10 Was Copying Lavi. They use it to humiliate china, Slander and Damage The Prestige and Honor of J-10, Making It Difficult To Export

The Same Thing Happens in Many Other Areas.

Final

China needs talent, but not in all fields and all costs. Unethical people are time bombs, Destroy China from inside


Many foreign teachers have flirted, charming, even rape, forcing Chinese girls to have sex with them. Those who have failed, lazy and could not have a good job in the West, quickly became a teacher in China just because they knew foreign languages. And most recently, a black teacher killed a Chinese student because she didn't accept his flirt.

On YouTube, there are several extreme Chinese anti-channels. Founded by foreign teachers. People who come to Chinese teach English, then flirt and marry a Chinese girl, and now he earns more income with Youtube channel - insulting - China

It is in the field of education, not taking into account foreigners in other service and industrial industries
China needs talent from abroad. But it should only be limited in some special cases and need supervision. The statements - foreigners are indispensable, China needs to attract talents around the world as an exaggeration and insult against China
 
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emblem21

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Hey guys, not something that is shown directly
on main media but this looks like as though Ukraine may have made the first move in striking a village in the Donbas which will obviously push Russia to action.
The USA will get the war they want but because this is a fight that is obviously started by the USA, this is a fight that they will seriously lose which by all means will signal a true turning point where the USA is going to finally going down a path where they finally will suffer some real consequences and should the stars align, the very essence as to what has enabled the USA to basically be a super power
 

Phead128

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Why would you care if Hans are majority or not? Unless ofcorse you consider those 50+ ethnic minority groups to be outsiders and not native to China?
It's not comparable to compare recent foreign immigrants (Blacks, Hispanics, Asians) to US to one of China's +50 ethnic groups that's been in China for 3,000 years. You are comparing apples to oranges. The assimilation propensity is very different between the two situations.
 

supersnoop

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I was thinking about something along these lines…

Apple’s AirTags work by building a mini mesh network right? Thanks to the market penetration of iPhones, they are counting on the AirTag to eventually ride onto an iPhone to report its location anywhere in the world…

So am I right to conclude that Apple is potentially building the largest worldwide surveillance network and we don’t even realize it?

Apple is a US company, we know that the US loves to use long-arm laws to enforce their rules globally. So by association, the US has built the largest global surveillance network…

Liberals can blind themselves with notions of fairness and due process, but we’ve already seen summary execution of American children overseas (Yemen), execution of American children by LEO (Don’t go shopping at the Burlington Coat Factory in LA when you’re a 14 year old girl), geofence cellphone location dragnet warrants (Jan. 6), and other gross expansions of state power (FISA court, etc.), so can we say being American is any less scary than being a Uighur in Xinjiang…
 
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