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iewgnem

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Thecore said:
I'm guessing TikTok US is just an entity created or left in place for revenue flow-through and tax purposes. The only TikTok app that US users will be able to access will only be whatever this new JV puts out most likely.
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Notice it's "license algorithm and IP 'usage' right to."
The JV only has the right to use whatever ByteDance builds, they don't have the right to build themselves.
They paid for ByteDance to build a censorship tool for them, that's the limit of what Chinese law allows.
Chinese law has the final word.
 
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Taar

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Eventine said:
Eileen Gu is not culturally Chinese though? She doesn’t even come across as a Chinese immigrant, so let’s not dwell too much on her connections or loyalties to China.

She’s basically like if a white expat in China decided he was going to become a wumao.
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Eileen Gu is currently considered "国籍冲突“ in China, there are bunch of kids like that right now. And I believe she spends her summer times in Beijing doing "培训班”, and her grandmother bring her up when young.
 
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horse

Colonel
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Eventine said:
I just hope that people here, at least, would have less of an idol worship take on Eileen and her "Chinese identity."
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Does not matter.

Like it or not, China is a country full of idols and probably a lot of prevs too. Idols and prevs go together.

Gu Ailing ticket to being an idol is not her bra size, it is a simple reason, she is a winner, and she choose China not out of pity but she wants to be a part of the Chinese scene.

To win at the Olympics, takes dedication, years of training, and not choking under the spotlight. Those are ideals we try to instill into our own kids. The word does not seem to be idol, but more like role model.

Speaking of idols, whatever happened to that anti-China Malaysian guy who was last seen with some deceased idol? When the gods turn, they turn hard.

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Taar

Junior Member
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Eventine said:
So do many Western expats. Learning English doesn’t make you culturally American, why would learning Mandarin make you culturally Chinese?

This whole heroine worship of Eileen Gu by some on this forum is both silly and naive. Most of you know very little about who she actually is. Like the fact that she grew up in an elite white circle (not the SF Chinese community), that most if not all of her close friends are white (despite being in SF), that her mother deliberately immigrated to the US from Shanghai, found a white DNA donor, voluntarily raised her without any paternal input, carefully cultivated her image from a young age, and then built a global business empire around her.

When I see Eileen, I don't even know who she really is, because so much of it is deliberate optics and PR - her mother has such huge control over her image that for all you know, the Eileen you're seeing is just a facade, the carefully constructed center piece of a brand. If she's so willing to be Chinese, why hasn't she switched her citizenship yet? She certainly could, given her special talents and her mother's heritage. Things to think about.
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Under China's law, at the time of Eileen Gu's birth, if her mother is a Chinese national without foreign residency(green card), she is considered a Chinese national, does not matter where she is born or the citizenship of her father. These kids are now considered "国籍冲突", kids who are born to be citizens of two countries.

"诸侯用夷礼则夷之，进于中国则中国之," is not just language, but culture, Eileen Gu might no be Chinese that way, but she is born a Chinese by China's law.
 
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