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Sardaukar20 said:
Now there's social media, and India can no longer hide behind the romanticism of journalists and writers. People around the world can see what the real Mumbai looks like compared to Shanghai. People can watch all the BS that is happening in India, and compare it with the progress of China. India is talking and talking and talking, while China is quietly coming up with new technologies and projects. That's why the Western way of comparing India to China is very lazy analysis.
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Honestly, I think I have never been more negative in my view of India's prospects than ever before. Not joking. The situation is dire. Some people realize it inside India, and they run!

Three main factors leads me to believe that.

1. The world, many parts of it, are turning way from low income countries as trading partners. India seemed to have missed the boat here. When the world was opening up, India did not really take advantage of that. Instead, the rupee all it did was go down. If India could not become a manufacture power when the global trading system was much more open, then when that system is contracting, that means less opportunity.

This does not mean the door is closed, just look at China and ASEAN, they continue to expand their trade and incomes go up. However, this door probably is closed for India. Just to think, they held up the RCEP ratification because of their wanting to export their people demands.


2. Internally India seems worst off, because the rupee keeps falling, and 40% of the population are still working the land. Where is the progress in the age of globalization? You would figure they could get people off the land, but that never happened. Now where are these jobs? While the rupee keeps falling so the fat cat rich Indian will buyout these hapless poor farmers.


3. The intensifying rival in all realms, particular technology and military between the China and the United States, will see India fall further behind. India is already behind. China and the United States locked in their rivalry will step on the accelerator. India cannot keep up. India will just fall further behind. Think of EVs, robotics, semi-conductors, and AI. They are not keeping up, they are falling further and further behind.


They are not catching up, and the internal situation is bad, so everyone flees.

The immediate future will not be kind to India.

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horse said:
Honestly, I think I have never been more negative in my view of India's prospects than ever before. Not joking. The situation is dire. Some people realize it inside India, and they run!

Three main factors leads me to believe that.

1. The world, many parts of it, are turning way from low income countries as trading partners. India seemed to have missed the boat here. When the world was opening up, India did not really take advantage of that. Instead, the rupee all it did was go down. If India could not become a manufacture power when the global trading system was much more open, then when that system is contracting, that means less opportunity.

This does not mean the door is closed, just look at China and ASEAN, they continue to expand their trade and incomes go up. However, this door probably is closed for India. Just to think, they held up the RCEP ratification because of their wanting to export their people demands.


2. Internally India seems worst off, because the rupee keeps falling, and 40% of the population are still working the land. Where is the progress in the age of globalization? You would figure they could get people off the land, but that never happened. Now where are these jobs? While the rupee keeps falling so the fat cat rich Indian will buyout these hapless poor farmers.


3. The intensifying rival in all realms, particular technology and military between the China and the United States, will see India fall further behind. India is already behind. China and the United States locked in their rivalry will step on the accelerator. India cannot keep up. India will just fall further behind. Think of EVs, robotics, semi-conductors, and AI. They are not keeping up, they are falling further and further behind.


They are not catching up, and the internal situation is bad, so everyone flees.

The immediate future will not be kind to India.

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Good never seen such a set of arrogant people with nothing to back it up like wth
 
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BlackWindMnt said:
For me it was simpel, such a big geopolitical/history rockstar living in China. I haven't seen any Chinese podcasters, interviewers, other media outlets create content with him. Like an interview/podcast with Zhang Weiwei or Eric X Li for example for such a global Rockstar.
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To me, he has lead an interesting life, and in his heart, he is still very much a Chinese-Canadian from Toronto.

Saw maybe one or two of his videos about Toronto, nailed it!

To be fair to him, he teaches at an international school in China, so the course material is more Western orientated. Just my impression.

His videos, might not be his videos, because in his videos, he is usually giving a lecture to the kids. That means someone in the class was filming him, which could be normal today.

So, we are left with the question, who is he? I would say he is a teacher.

If teacher Jiang is trying to change the world or have an agenda, I do not think he is trying hard enough.

The other day, he was on the Glenn Diesen show on Youtube. It was a nice conversation. Nice conversation do not change the world. I enjoyed that talk very much.

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horse said:
To me, he has lead an interesting life, and in his heart, he is still very much a Chinese-Canadian from Toronto.

Saw maybe one or two of his videos about Toronto, nailed it!

To be fair to him, he teaches at an international school in China, so the course material is more Western orientated. Just my impression.

His videos, might not be his videos, because in his videos, he is usually giving a lecture to the kids. That means someone in the class was filming him, which could be normal today.

So, we are left with the question, who is he? I would say he is a teacher.

If teacher Jiang is trying to change the world or have an agenda, I do not think he is trying hard enough.

The other day, he was on the Glenn Diesen show on Youtube. It was a nice conversation. Nice conversation do not change the world. I enjoyed that talk very much.

:D
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I listened to some of his talks, his theory of social degradation is definitely intellectually stimulating for me and I do recommend it. However you can also tell he has a typical "润人“ mentality, his view on China is probably stuck in the 1980. Take the good part and filter out the bad
 
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Temstar said:
Public intellectuals complaining about the current state of the world is a classism thing that has thousands of years of history behind it, it's part of how they justify their existence to the common people. It's just historically the paragon they hold up is some mythical golden past in China's history. Ever since Opium War though they've had to change track and instead hold up foreign countries as the paragon.

When the time comes and China has unambiguously won, I bet they will just change tunes and go back to using idealized Chinese past dynasties again. You can already see attempts at this with that lady talking up Ming-dynasty and claiming they invented everything including steam engines.
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I actually think the 1644 historiography thing is just another enemy foreign government ploy along with Manchu cabals controlling the CPC Kinda like how Russian intel plays up the Jewish cabal thing to foment instability in the west, even if it is true.
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Its harmful cause it promotes and vindicates lots of racist stereotypes that people around the world have, including Chinese themselves, about how Chinese are incapable of doing well in winter sports, how its her "white genes" allowed her to do so well. Its also about the craze about her promoting lots of brands and making money when pure Chinese player did not get the same level of support and crazy fandom that she got, only because of her mixed race identity.

She is a walking stereotype promoter and giving her a platform in China was harmful to China's self-image, Chinese players self-image.

Moreover, Chinese govt appearently ignored their own law about dual citizenship to allow her to play as Chinese. Which only makes seem desperate for gold at any cost, even if ignore their own laws. Lots of other Chinese-descent players did not get the same treatment and had to renounce their citizenship in order to play for China.

Finally, she showed no actual loyalty to China after the games ended. She openly flaunts her US citizenship and the special treatment she got from Chinese govt. She openly stays in US and gives no indication that she actually is a Chinese citizen going back to China out of patriotism. It shows that she played for China just for the money.

So, both Chinese govt and her seem greedy. Not what sports should be about. Overall, just a toxic and embarassing episode for China.
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Racists are going to be racist, what can you do? When Pan Zhanle beat the Anglos in swimming they made up all sorts of bs excuses and even went so far as to imply it wasn’t humanly possible because Chinese are somehow genetically inferior to the superior white Anglo Australian, even after constant drug testing at 3am to make the Chinese team sleep disrupted.

Especially in Sweden which has a hard on for all things Japanese which are actually Chinese things. Historically, many Swedish nobles and royalty loved chinoiserie and Chinese things so nothing much has changed, except that Sweden has as of late become more sensible towards China, such that they were granted visa free travel to China.
 
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TPenglake said:
I could be wrong, since I don't have an X account. But you know what's one China talking point I've seen dissappear from online discourse entirely, or at least just very little of it? The notion that Made in China is a thing of the past and that Made in Vietnam or India is the future.
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During COVID and height of the first trade war that was all that people talked about. Today? Nothing.
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With a $1 trillion dollar trade surplus, it's probably not feasible to continue with that party line.

Although some places certainly will.

I said this before, and will repeat myself again, this is only getting started.

China makes stuff that people want. In consumer goods, and industrial goods. What to improve productivity inside one's own country? Buy the factors of production from China! Then we got the EV revolution coming, then robotics! Consumers will be happy!

The Chinese trade surplus is not going to go away.
 
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Thanks for showing Jordan is as incompetent as Hezbollah (probably more) by displaying Israel's great concern for human life by blowing up civilian pagers in public.

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Funnily enough, this is exactly what they were claiming China was doing with its own cars.

The US and Europe are the definition of projection. Every accusation is a confession.
 
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horse said:
Honestly, I think I have never been more negative in my view of India's prospects than ever before. Not joking. The situation is dire. Some people realize it inside India, and they run!

Three main factors leads me to believe that.

1. The world, many parts of it, are turning way from low income countries as trading partners. India seemed to have missed the boat here. When the world was opening up, India did not really take advantage of that. Instead, the rupee all it did was go down. If India could not become a manufacture power when the global trading system was much more open, then when that system is contracting, that means less opportunity.

This does not mean the door is closed, just look at China and ASEAN, they continue to expand their trade and incomes go up. However, this door probably is closed for India. Just to think, they held up the RCEP ratification because of their wanting to export their people demands.


2. Internally India seems worst off, because the rupee keeps falling, and 40% of the population are still working the land. Where is the progress in the age of globalization? You would figure they could get people off the land, but that never happened. Now where are these jobs? While the rupee keeps falling so the fat cat rich Indian will buyout these hapless poor farmers.


3. The intensifying rival in all realms, particular technology and military between the China and the United States, will see India fall further behind. India is already behind. China and the United States locked in their rivalry will step on the accelerator. India cannot keep up. India will just fall further behind. Think of EVs, robotics, semi-conductors, and AI. They are not keeping up, they are falling further and further behind.


They are not catching up, and the internal situation is bad, so everyone flees.

The immediate future will not be kind to India.

:confused:
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Something I realized about the world recently is unfortunately many of the important things in life have a very short window of opportunity. This is even more apparent at the high level. When you are in the 100m final at the Olympics, you have 10 seconds to make or break your entire existence. Everything in your life up to that point will be decided in basically a few seconds.

Now you can say but China isn't operating on 10 seconds. It has long term goals! Right. How long have the commies being in power? Less than 1 century. Given how long China has existed, thats not a very long time. When they say they want to be a fully developed country, they really only have 10 to 20 years at most to make the most of its growth phase which is where everything is decided. Thats not really a lot. If they fail to take advantage of it then its pretty much over since everything they do afterwards will not be enough to get it above the required threshold to be fully developed.

So India keeps saying I will do it later one day in the future. By the time you become actually serious about it, the window of opportunity may have already closed. So there is no tomorrow because you didn't pay attention to today!
 
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