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China eases visa rules for India, tapping into US$21.6 billion travel market​

Indian nationals will now be able to apply for Chinese visas online as Beijing and New Delhi gradually move to normalise economic ties​


Beijing and New Delhi have taken another step towards normalising economic ties after a five-year rift, as China moves to introduce a simplified visa process for Indian nationals that could help it tap India’s fast-growing travel market.

The Chinese embassy in New Delhi said earlier this month that Indian citizens would be able to apply for visas online from December 22, sparing them time-consuming initial in-person visits to the embassy or other consular offices in the country.

The move follows the
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between India and China in October after a five-year suspension. While the world’s two most populous nations remain strategic rivals competing for regional influence, relations have gradually thawed since a
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in 2020, analysts said.

“Generally speaking, China is relaxing its visa controls, and for China-India the megatrend is to have more engagement with each other,” said Victor Gao, vice-president of the Centre for China and Globalisation think tank in Beijing. “Granting more flexibility to Indians to visit China … would be highly appreciated.”

The simpler visa policy could help China grab a bigger slice of India’s lucrative outbound travel market, which was worth US$21.6 billion last year and is predicted to balloon to US$61.7 billion by 2033, according to a report by Indian research firm MarketsandMarkets.

Indian tourism to China was growing fast before 2020, with 142,000 Indian nationals visiting the country in 2019, a 19 per cent increase from the previous year, according to travel industry platform India Outbound. But travel then cratered amid the pandemic and growing political tensions.

Travellers from India would be more likely to visit China once they could file visa applications “faster”, said Pradip Putatunda, president of the Indian Recreation Club in Hong Kong, who has extensive contacts among Indian nationals in the city.

“I’m 100 per cent sure it will be helpful and people will react positively,” Putatunda said. “People are willing to go to China for business and for travel purposes.”

Indians face visa restrictions in many countries, making places with simplified travel rules attractive to middle-class tourists, according to Jayant Menon, a senior fellow at the ISEAS – Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore.

“Any country that simplifies visa requirements for Indian nationals usually benefits significantly from tourism because of the difficulty for Indians travelling to most countries in the world,” Menon said.

China has extended visa-free travel and simpler visa processing policies to dozens of countries since 2023 as part of a push to
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Business travel between China and India was also likely to rise, analysts said. China’s exports to India
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of US$113.46 billion in the financial year from April 2024 to March 2025, according to the Indian embassy in Beijing. India shipped US$14.24 billion in goods the other way.

To join global supply chains, India’s businesspeople “can’t avoid creating engagement with China”, Menon said.

If travel is made easier, “the two countries can benefit a lot”, Gao said. “These two economies are complementary to each other.”

As in other countries where Chinese visas are required, online applicants in India still must visit the Chinese embassy or a Chinese consular office for a final evaluation and approval of the travel document.





Ugh. This one reasons I hate capitalism or rather the pursuit of needing to make more profit every year. Like I don't want cheap ass Indian tourists who sleep in the hotel lobby so they don't have to pay for a room. Did you know there are Indian tourists who demand to eat at a restaurant and order the cheapest stuff while demanding the restaurant kicks out everyone but them? Yes these things actually happened in China. For some reason all that crap about how authoritarian or dystopic China is with spy drones, it wasn't enough to stop them acting like this. Weibo is full of "experiences" with these Indian tourists and they make the early obnoxious naive Chinese tourists look truly civilized. Its all relative of how much you can be asshole and there are frankly no limits to it.

But as you know they only look at that US$21.6 billion travel market figure and go WOW I MUST HAVE THAT!
Yeah honestly I think China needs to reduce the tourism because it's basically making things worse. Reminds of r/Shanghai saying there is barely any foreigners left after Covid which is good riddence.

This is why this cosmopolitan shit that Eastern China (Especially the coast) are obsessed with needs to fucking die because it would ruin China and showed the world that China learned nothing from the Century of Humiliation.
 

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India poses a significant long-term threat to China. First, India and China have substantial territorial disputes. Second, India's rapid economic growth and immense potential could make it a formidable power by mid-century. Currently, Western nations are accelerating their decoupling from China and relocating manufacturing to India, clearly aiming to mold India into a second China—much like China itself when it first opened up in the last century. This will accelerate India's ascent toward becoming a global power.

In terms of national morality, India has a history of repeatedly encroaching upon China and has even weaponized dams to attack Pakistan. Were it not for China's formidable military strength, India would undoubtedly continue its aggression against neighboring countries. Should such a nation grow powerful, it would pose a grave threat to the world—especially given that India also possesses nuclear weapons.
 

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I fully understand the frustration and suspicion surrounding China's newly relaxed visa policy for Indian "tourists."
Beijing has little choice but to extend these gestures: it needs to prevent India—and especially the Indian public—from fully committing to the Western bloc. After all, the West's ultimate aim is to see Asia tear itself apart in conflict. War brings devastation; devastation cripples economies and industries; lingering hostilities for decades keep those economies weak—creating the perfect opening for the West to swoop in with a 21st-century Marshall Plan, thereby reinvigorating its own dominance under U.S. leadership.
So you’re saying India blackmails the world by helping the enemies of countries unless these countries open the floodgates to let more hordes of Indians into their lands? Look at the infiltration to top levels in government from positions in elected to appointed to marriages to politicians and infiltration in the corporate world that Indians have been able to make in the US, Canada and the UK in a few short decades. No thanks. I’d rather let them follow through on the threat than fall victim into the trap.
 

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So you’re saying India blackmails the world by helping the enemies of countries unless these countries open the floodgates to let more hordes of Indians into their lands? Look at the infiltration to top levels in government from positions in elected to appointed to marriages to politicians and infiltration in the corporate world that Indians have been able to make in the US, Canada and the UK in a few short decades. No thanks. I’d rather let them follow through on the threat than fall victim into the trap.
If you think that an Indian, let alone any Indian can somehow penetrate deep into the CPC and make able to work in the government that's just beyond the realm of possibility. And if by some sliver of chance they succeed, then, they've certainly earned the moniker of a supapowah
 

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Just to let you know, the war is inevitable as climate change got worsen. India will side anyone who will fight china no matter how restrained china is.
China won't give up south tibet like they intended in the past as it's future water for Chinese in northwestern half of region which is nessity of national survival when climate change got worsen.
So rather use chance to weaken them. This is really zero sum game and there's no win win solution for this
Nah war is definitely avoidable. India is no match for China, especially considering that Pakistan with Chinese support would completely destroy India in a full out war.
 

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If you think that an Indian, let alone any Indian can somehow penetrate deep into the CPC and make able to work in the government that's just beyond the realm of possibility. And if by some sliver of chance they succeed, then, they've certainly earned the moniker of a supapowah
That may be the case, but allowing “people exchange” with India doesn’t mean they will temper any long term ambitions when it comes to challenging China. No matter how many times China tries to extend a hand in friendship with India, they will still seek to undermine. The only reason there is some semblance of thawing relations with China now is because of how Trump is treating them, which results in them dropping into a weaker position than they anticipated. They might smile now since they lack leverage and ability, but even if China and India declared themselves to be full blown allies tomorrow, the second they get a chance, they will backstab. Why give them more vectors of attack and potential sabotage capabilities and let them into the country? No false hope of “leashing” India is worth that.

China should seek to puff up Modi with empty sweet words (which truth be told, based on Indian political and self aggrandizement culture, would go a long way) but would be stupid to acquiesce to India’s main goal, which is offloading low quality human capital, which is a burden to them right now simply due to sheer numbers.
 

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Yeah honestly I think China needs to reduce the tourism because it's basically making things worse. Reminds of r/Shanghai saying there is barely any foreigners left after Covid which is good riddence.

This is why this cosmopolitan shit that Eastern China (Especially the coast) are obsessed with needs to fucking die because it would ruin China and showed the world that China learned nothing from the Century of Humiliation.
Just 6:1 female to male ratio the visas. All sector that needs extra hands tends to be light manufacturing and services like nursing anyway, all viable for working women.
 

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I fully understand the frustration and suspicion surrounding China's newly relaxed visa policy for Indian "tourists."
Beijing has little choice but to extend these gestures: it needs to prevent India—and especially the Indian public—from fully committing to the Western bloc. After all, the West's ultimate aim is to see Asia tear itself apart in conflict. War brings devastation; devastation cripples economies and industries; lingering hostilities for decades keep those economies weak—creating the perfect opening for the West to swoop in with a 21st-century Marshall Plan, thereby reinvigorating its own dominance under U.S. leadership.
I’ll be really sanguine and say I do want India to join with the Anglo enemy as cases belli to eliminate this annoying Indian threat.
And the sheer fact that the Anglos still want India to bat for them after failing against Pakistan shows you they deserve to lose.


crap like this is why I remain suspicious of Russia, remember that North Korea has sent her sons to fight and die in Ukraine and this is how Russia under Putin repays them? Hell, this is Vietnam betraying China after all the support during the Vietnam war.
Just 6:1 female to male ratio the visas. All sector that needs extra hands tends to be light manufacturing and services like nursing anyway, all viable for working women.
all those roles could be taken my East Asian or south East Asian females, eh oh are compatible with China unlike Indians who may not respect basic infection control.
 
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