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ACuriousPLAFan

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I thought it's been long time since bamboo scaffolding is not being used in China anymore. This is insane, out of mind, to wrap up multiple highrises completely with bamboo scaffolding... Fire just got spread so fast all over...

The mainland Chinese authorities have outlawed the usage of bamboo scaffoldings 4 years ago, mandating the use of non-combustible steel scaffoldings in building construction/maintenance.

However, Hong Kong choose to not follow.
 

Iracundus

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I thought it's been long time since bamboo scaffolding is not being used in China anymore. This is insane, out of mind, to wrap up multiple highrises completely with bamboo scaffolding... Fire just got spread so fast all over...

Actually, I remember seeing a TV program in HK years ago about a study done by one of the universities in HK comparing bamboo scaffolding to steel scaffolding. It basically concluded that bamboo scaffolding if made from bamboo of the right age was actually superior to steel scaffolding since it was lighter, more flexible, higher tensile strength, didn't heat up in the hot sun as much, and far cheaper and faster to construct. It was also more ecologically sustainable since bamboo is biodegradable and very commonplace.

The downside unfortunately was it required workers to be more experienced and skilled in tying up the bamboo to make the scaffolding (a dying industry since fewer and fewer people wanted to do such work) and fire risk.
 

gk1713

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Actually, I remember seeing a TV program in HK years ago about a study done by one of the universities in HK comparing bamboo scaffolding to steel scaffolding. It basically concluded that bamboo scaffolding if made from bamboo of the right age was actually superior to steel scaffolding since it was lighter, more flexible, higher tensile strength, didn't heat up in the hot sun as much, and far cheaper and faster to construct. It was also more ecologically sustainable since bamboo is biodegradable and very commonplace.

The downside unfortunately was it required workers to be more experienced and skilled in tying up the bamboo to make the scaffolding (a dying industry since fewer and fewer people wanted to do such work) and fire risk.
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Of course theres a committee or union for it, and would sponsor those research
 

_killuminati_

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No wonder India hates China so much. They assumed that they owned Aksai China and South Tibet. The Chinese said no and showed them historical facts. This insulted the Izzat of India. So Nehru started a war in 1962 and then China bitch slapped his mighty Indian military. This is the ultimate insult on India's Izzat. So since then, India have declared China a sworn enemy and would never settle the border disputes for lasting peace. Because doing so would add more insult India's Izzat. Every subsequent insult has a compounding effect. So, India has essentially no way out of it's spite with China.
I don't think Tibet for India is an issue of izzat since it's never been part of India or any former Indian countries. They dislike China and want to create divisions. Sowing discord using Tibet is a strategy. That's it.

Izzat is more like a personal, factual or quasi factual claim, i.e. prestige. Like if somebody said Taj Mahal isn't Indian because it was built by the Turco-Mongol Mughal invaders from Uzbekistan, then that would be an attack on current India's izzat because of the prestige India has earned from this monument. Another example below:
The troubled Tejas started out as an ambitions program by India that started around 1983 to push it into the club of 4th gen fighter makers. If successful, India would have entered the 4th gen fighter era earlier of China. But alas that never happened.

Decades later, Modi's BJP government took the stuttering Tejas program into it's Supapowar project. India is already be a Supapowar, so it should have been exporting high value defence products like fighter jets. That is why despite the abysmal production and adoption rates by the Indian Airforce, India is so anxious to export the Tejas. Even when they are still waiting for a trickle of engines from the GE to complete Tejas airframes for their own squadrons. They have gone to great lengths to showcase their Tejas in airshows, lobby other nations to buy the jets, and even lied about obtaining orders. It's all to feed their Supapowar project.

The Jai Hinds treat the world aviation market like gullible fools. They boast that their Tejas outperforms the JF-17, J-10, and even the J-20. But they also ignore that all successful fighter exports must have successful domestic service. The Gripen, FA-50, and JF-17 all had successful production runs and service for their respective air forces years before they were exported. The Tejas is barely filling up Indian squadrons and the Indians are already boasting about export orders.

At Dubai, the Indians waved off a bad oil leak as "hater conspiracy". Then their pilot attempted a dangerous stunt at very low altitudes for the cameras. He made a slight mistake, but at that altitude, there was no margin for error, and lost his life as a result. Then the Indian media were busy blaming other nations and boasting that the Tejas has less crashes than indigenous Pakistani and Chinese jets. This is all a symptom of that Supapowar mindset.
Because they marketed and associated the Tejas with their domestic self-reliance and superpower ambitions, any development in the Tejas project automatically becomes a matter of Izzat. A fault in the jet lowers izzat + weak character leads to cope (blaming others). This project should have been shelved by the mid-2000's at the latest - it is only alive because of the izzat (honor) they've attached to it. It has no future.


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This sounds like an ingenious idea. The thing is how will they determine who gets the resources to try?
The same way they select grad students? Don't they get resources like lab equipment when selected?

A lot of the Japanese people just don’t know about the war time atrocities, I have Japanese family members and they are not taught at school about it, even if somehow they are taught about it, it is glossed over with excuses or denial about the scale of organised geniside.

but from what I have seen, young Japanese girls are more open to learning and accepting Japanese atrocities, that is the sign of hope for the future.
Maybe they know and have found a way to justify it. Some time ago I saw a documentary in which the Japanese said they feared being colonized & exploited like the rest of Asia by European powers, so they became colonizers themselves.

In America, to this day, you will find most people who justify the use of nukes on (Japanese) civilians.

That's what the Americans thought when they dragged themselves into Iraq and Afghanistan. The actual best time to fight a war is when doing so is better than all the alternatives. Right now, China gets pretty much everything it wants without having to fight so what are they actually gaining?

Against Japan, there's just not a whole lot of potential gains for China. China doesn't want any Japanese territory other than the Senkakus, and they're not worth fighting over. It might want to establish Okinawa as the Republic of Ryukyu, but that's not a realistic outcome. And there are lots of risks involved, for diplomatic impact, to Russian-styled sanctions, to the possibility of a military defeat. Sure, I don't think the latter is likely, but only a fool would entirely discount the risk.
Threat removal is a pretty big gain. The US has done more damage around the world than the Japanese. And it's parent - the British Empire may have been even worse. Dismantling of Japan and US presence there is a huge benefit.
 

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I don't think Tibet for India is an issue of izzat since it's never been part of India or any former Indian countries. They dislike China and want to create divisions. Sowing discord using Tibet is a strategy. That's it.

Izzat is more like a personal, factual or quasi factual claim, i.e. prestige. Like if somebody said Taj Mahal isn't Indian because it was built by the Turco-Mongol Mughal invaders from Uzbekistan, then that would be an attack on current India's izzat because of the prestige India has earned from this monument. Another example below:

Because they marketed and associated the Tejas with their domestic self-reliance and superpower ambitions, any development in the Tejas project automatically becomes a matter of Izzat. A fault in the jet lowers izzat + weak character leads to cope (blaming others). This project should have been shelved by the mid-2000's at the latest - it is only alive because of the izzat (honor) they've attached to it. It has no future.



The same way they select grad students? Don't they get resources like lab equipment when selected?


Maybe they know and have found a way to justify it. Some time ago I saw a documentary in which the Japanese said they feared being colonized & exploited like the rest of Asia by European powers, so they became colonizers themselves.

In America, to this day, you will find most people who justify the use of nukes on (Japanese) civilians.


Threat removal is a pretty big gain. The US has done more damage around the world than the Japanese. And it's parent - the British Empire may have been even worse. Dismantling of Japan and US presence there is a huge benefit.
India never had control yes. But the Brits had vassal like control over it and this was done through India. As we know with Jai Hinds despite cursing the British empire, they are happy to claim all it's territory. Add that in with them feeling entitled to any Buddhist country and you will see India feeling real entitled to Tibet.

Unfortunately for them, China has a military and isn't fooled by it's lies.

When India starts crying victim like they did with their south Tibet issue, the proper response is to put your foot down and say no bluntly. Indians either have to use force (and expose themselves) or shut it.
 
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