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4Tran

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Because in the end its always all about the economy (not calling you such, I'm using the idiom here) stupid. Unless its a threat right on their doorstep, plebs rarely care about foreign policy while 90% of the time their wallets are on their mind. And if politicians can't deliver on that front, they lose their jobs no matter what kind of foreign policy boogeymen they drum up.

You're not arguing in good faith here. Germany's car industry was brought to a standstill and they practically begged on their knees to the Netherlands to hand Nexperia back to China, which they did. China won that standoff. Or do you think the only acceptable retaliation would've been to send a PLA brigade to Donbass?

Marcos played chicken with the Chinese coast guard, but rather than being a hero he's now staring down a 33% approval rating and hundreds of thousands of protesters demanding his government's resignation over corruption.

If your hypothesis is that Japan saw Nexperia as a lesson of how it can cross China's redlines, then I don't know what the cause for doomerism is because if anything it says Japan's leaders are so blinded by pride, (or I guess in Takaichi's case her Gaara levels of insomnia) they're unaware of how that episode ended and how it'll end for Japan once China applies all pressure points on their economy, which previously contracted 1.8% mind you.

If the US had a Democrat president willing to prop up Japan's econonomy that's one thing, but tariff Trump? Wrong time to be acting this bellicose.
It's important to bear in mind that China is winning right now, and winning very hard at basically everything. The American-led counterattacks have all failed; some quite spectacularly. The more this trend continues, the more it favors China so why start a military conflict and risk everything. The calculus would be different if China were losing right now, but that's far from the case.
 

BasilicaLew

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It's important to bear in mind that China is winning right now, and winning very hard at basically everything. The American-led counterattacks have all failed; some quite spectacularly. The more this trend continues, the more it favors China so why start a military conflict and risk everything. The calculus would be different if China were losing right now, but that's far from the case.
As they say
“Do nothing, win.”
 

A potato

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Sounds like a you problem. Shanghainese are perfectly fine Chinese citizens and represent a huge part of Chinese economic, technical, and cultural power. Anyone denying that are seriously just deluded.
The Chongqinghotpot82 saga in this thread, as well as opinions from other Shanghainese people on the thread would disagree with you. Everyone here in forum constantly mocks Shanghainese people for being white worshipping cucks and who can blame them.
 

zyklon

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I’m just surprised that she has found new employment so quickly in this job market.

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principally comes from the Australian government: most notably from its defence ministry in general, the Australian Signals Directorate (counterpart to America's NSA and Britain's GCHQ), and the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which just happens to be the parent ministry of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service (counterpart to America's CIA and Britain's MI6).

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ASPI also receives funding from the US State Department, which is known to provide official covers for certain US government agencies.

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Not to say any of the aforementioned entities encouraged, arranged or otherwise facilitated Bethany's exciting new role as ASPI's "
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However, if we're to "follow the money" as many of her fellow American journalists like to say, Bethany may not necessarily be all that different from many, if not the majority of her ASPI colleagues.
 

han1289

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Because in the end its always all about the economy (not calling you such, I'm using the idiom here) stupid. Unless its a threat right on their doorstep, plebs rarely care about foreign policy while 90% of the time their wallets are on their mind. And if politicians can't deliver on that front, they lose their jobs no matter what kind of foreign policy boogeymen they drum up.

In which case China has not inflicted the kind of economic hurt that will make japs think twice. So far, only a seafood import ban and cutting tourists. All that bluster and tough talk from various ministries, embassies, strongly worded letters to the UN and ends up with this? China has the economic tools to hurt Japan, but it won’t because it’ll also affect China. So, a lack of determination.


You're not arguing in good faith here. Germany's car industry was brought to a standstill and they practically begged on their knees to the Netherlands to hand Nexperia back to China, which they did. China won that standoff. Or do you think the only acceptable retaliation would've been to send a PLA brigade to Donbass?

And what’s happening now? A return to the status quo. Is that winning a standoff? China gave them face and an off ramp, prioritizing economic stability. Neither netherlands as a whole nor any dutch companies suffered any economic reprisals. Nor the executives that engineered it. German car companies had a production slowdown…for a week. And this was a situation where the dutch played a universally criticized move and China was well within its rights to make them pay.

Marcos played chicken with the Chinese coast guard, but rather than being a hero he's now staring down a 33% approval rating and hundreds of thousands of protesters demanding his government's resignation over corruption.

That has nothing to do with the fishermen and more to do with his corruption. I would argue without his strongman image at China’s expense, he would’ve faced internal trouble even sooner.




China could be soft on all these countries for “economic stability”, but it absolutely cannot be soft on archenemy japan. Every country is watching this as well. If China doesn’t take decisive action this time, it’ll end up besieged on all sides on multiple issues over the coming years. A dragon, tangled up by a dozen snakes.
 
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