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Racek49

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FairAndUnbiased said:
If they could, they would. An action requires capability and intent. The intent has been declared: decoupling was talked about since 2016. Since intent is not the limiting factor, and there is substantial evidence for capability being the limiting factor, we must conclude it is the capability that is limiting.

South Korea is the only 1 with a manufacturing base left, actually. Japan is already a service economy like EU and US. And here is the problem: South Korea is too close to China.

Did you know Taiwan used to hijack and shoot at not only Chinese ships but western ships trading with China, including core NATO allies, and even invading Japanese waters to shoot western NATO ships, and the west did nothing about it, not even verbal complaints, despite how weak and dependent Taiwan was?

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Dear friend, I was even involved in such a conflict as a little boy. My parents took me to a ceremonial sailing of a Chinese warship, organized for representatives of friendly countries and their families, sometime in 1955 or 1956, I don't remember. On the high seas, suddenly Taiwanese planes started circling above the ship and the captain sent us below deck and turned back to port. Maybe somewhere in the estate I could find a photo so we could determine what ship it was... maybe. It's been a long time. But I remember many things and thanks to you I am also restoring my memories.
 
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I have to say, I don't understand the Chinese strategy with regards to rare earth export controls.

Yes it does signify that China is no longer afraid of American retaliation, which is a monumental step.
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But why now? Trump seems genuinely surprised, and to a casual observer it does feel like a blow out of the blue especially when we just had a phone call where both sides were calling for cooperation.
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It is surprising because you actually believed in what Trump lied about the meeting in Oslo. There wasn't any improvement in relationship, it was all spins of Trump to paint a rosy story over a disaster. Actually after so much damage, there is no way back by now.

I have explained that meeting's readout from China's side. Using Chinese diplomatic Jargon, the message was "there was a big argument, with nothing to agree upon."

In diplomacy language, good means good. Any other words should be understood as colder than its literal meaning.

sndef888 said:
Is it just a negotiating tactic ahead of Trump Xi meeting? To push Trump to say he opposes Taiwan independence?
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Not tactic but strategic change for new normal, change of paradigm, teaching US how to behave in a new world order.

China don't need US to saying anything about Taiwan, just to forever shut up and stop doing what they have been doing. Whatever words he or any US president say is piece of junk anyway.
 
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sndef888 said:
I have to say, I don't understand the Chinese strategy with regards to rare earth export controls.

Yes it does signify that China is no longer afraid of American retaliation, which is a monumental step.

But why now? Trump seems genuinely surprised, and to a casual observer it does feel like a blow out of the blue especially when we just had a phone call where both sides were calling for cooperation.

Is it just a negotiating tactic ahead of Trump Xi meeting? To push Trump to say he opposes Taiwan independence?
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Because Trump keeps on TACOing every single time? There is basically no repercussion to China escalating since he and Branden played all the cards over the course of eight years.
 
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sndef888 said:
I have to say, I don't understand the Chinese strategy with regards to rare earth export controls.

Yes it does signify that China is no longer afraid of American retaliation, which is a monumental step.

But why now? Trump seems genuinely surprised, and to a casual observer it does feel like a blow out of the blue especially when we just had a phone call where both sides were calling for cooperation.

Is it just a negotiating tactic ahead of Trump Xi meeting? To push Trump to say he opposes Taiwan independence?
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I think it is worth it for comedic value alone. Every time US promise something, do the opposite. This time China did it after disarm them with talk, and I can't say US didn't deserve that one. The punch is long overdue but doing it after them lowering guard is just funny.

Let's be real, is anyone seriously expecting the talk will make things better? The talk will reverse US policy? Or was the talk to lower China's guard? Well, if the talks are useless anyways may as well be used to sucker punch haha.
 
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