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enroger

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the irony is not lost upon me that all these other global south comments saying like "im so glad chinas going to take the lead, they'll never bully us like the united states" have simply never heard the chinese talking candidly amongst themselves.

Statements like this shows you neither have close enough relation with any Chinese to know what they candidly say nor do you have good understanding of the world.

Fact is China has much more to gain by helping the global south and to bully the west.

The west is commercial competitor with China and their market is increasingly shrinking due to their own economic decline and protectionist policy. China will gain less and less benefit working the west.

Global south is not commercial competitor with China, their market and resource is open to China and their market and human resource will be fast growing due to demographics. China will gain more profit by helping and developing the global south.

Pretty simple logic here, yeah?
 

Sardaukar20

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And if Europeans try to enslave your people again, and was rightfully defeated by your people, you would rather their institution for initiating the aggression remain? I am not following your train of thoughts.
That dude is a liberal with BDSM mental issues. He knows that the Nazis are evil, but he finds every excuse for the Japanese Imperial Institution. He goes so far as to justify Japan getting nukes if China dares to threaten the Chrysanthemum Throne. He just loves the Japanese Emperor.

A typical raging liberal with no cow sense of actual history. Nazi bad, but Japanese Emperor good. Anyone opposes him, and he calls them basement imperialists. As the saying goes, scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.

P.S. When he is mad, he likes to talk about sitting down young boys and whipping their butts with leather. The guy a sicko.
 
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Sardaukar20

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the irony is not lost upon me that all these other global south comments saying like "im so glad chinas going to take the lead, they'll never bully us like the united states" have simply never heard the chinese talking candidly amongst themselves.
What have you heard the Chinese say? Better yet, what have you actually heard from the Global South? Because what I hear from the Global South is an incoherent mess, constantly switching between China good and China bad. Same thing with the US. The truth is that the Global South just couldn't care less. They'll just go with the flow.

China just loves business and couldn't care less about the internal affairs of the Global South. They are not sending missionaries and NGOs to tell smaller nations to become just like China. They would love a good deal, but if the smaller nation wants to cheat and steal their investments, China is just gonna complain and suspend trade. No sanctions, sabotage, colour revolution, nor military action. Try that with American investments and see the difference.

Actions speak louder than words. Who cares what a few idiots in the Chinese internet say. If you're a small nation, trading with China had proven to be more productive and safer than with the US.
 
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Randomuser

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That dude is a liberal with BDSM mental issues. He knows that the Nazis are evil, but he finds every excuse for the Japanese Imperial Institution. He goes so far as to justify Japan getting nukes if China is dares to threaten the Chrysanthemum Throne. He just loves the Japanese Emperor.

A typical raging liberal with no cow sense of actual history. Nazi bad, but Japanese Emperor good. Anyone opposes him, and he calls them basement imperialists. As the saying goes, scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.

P.S. When he is mad, he likes to talk about sitting down young boys and whipping their butts with leather. That's a sicko alright.
Ultimately libs who claim to support China don't really believe in it when things are tough. They don't believe it can truly win.

They still end up subscribing to that winology crap that China is acting out of place for being assertive. Coz China has only recently become strong so it doesn't register in their heads yet. A long established power has historical legitimacy, institutional backing, and narrative control to say its simply being assertive over bullying after all. In fact I would say the reason the west is losing legitimacy and getting called out more is more to do with the loss of power instead.

I was revisiting that mess between Lithuania and China on that Taiwan office that lead to China sanctions. Back then Covid was in full spring and the spotlight was on China. China was called a karen for trying to say what Lithuania does. What they are doing is bullying, throwing away their goodwill and acting like some imperialist etc.

Fast forward to today. People don't really say that anymore. Ask Lithuanian people themselves who voted out Gabrielius Landsbergis (the most vocal advocate of it) as well a lot of the incumbent party at that time. Per polls, they didn't agree with how the government handled China and Taiwan relations at the time stating that this values based policy brought unnecessary pain. Gitanas Nausėda said it was a mistake although this is just damage control.

Lithuania is still causing trouble although more quiet. But China acted assertive and didn't lose its goodwill. Rather it shows that it should be taken seriously and that it deserves respect. Even now I would say its still not really given the respect it actually deserves. People are just begrudgingly giving it coz they don't really have a choice.

Speaking of which China being able to effectively sanction others is a new thing too. Seriously not long ago people laughed at the idea China could do sanctions. Now when China does it to Lithuania banks for example you have the EU begging China to reconsider. Funny how the idea of sanctions when it was done to China never bothered them.
 
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enroger

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Are the Japanese trying to colonize China again?

Japanese are actively trying to undermine China's sovereignty by meddling with Taiwan. Japan has been funding and supporting the DPP, Japan's foreign office has funded numerous groups and NGOs to manipulate Taiwan's media and public opinions to vilify China.

Japan is also stating that they will militarily intervene with Taiwan's unification.

Japan is not trying to colonize China but their action is close enough to it.

Edit: btw, have you heard of Nanjing massacre and Unit 731? If not then maybe you should seek a little education. Japan till this day denies those events and try to paint themselves as victim of ww2, their history books has little to no account of Japan's atrocities but focus on their own loss.

The mainstream narrative in Japan about ww2 was not that they're sorry for starting the war but that they're sorry for losing it.
 
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Sardaukar20

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Ultimately libs who claim to support China don't really believe in it when things are tough. They don't believe it can truly win.

They still end up subscribing to that winology crap that China is acting out of place for being assertive. Coz China has only recently become strong so it doesn't register in their heads yet. A long established power has historical legitimacy, institutional backing, and narrative control to say its simply being assertive over bullying after all. In fact I would say the reason the west is losing legitimacy and getting called out more is more to do with the loss of power instead.

I was revisiting that mess between Lithuania and China on that Taiwan office that lead to China sanctions. Back then Covid was in full spring and the spotlight was on China. China was called a karen for trying to say what Lithuania does. What they are doing is bullying, throwing away their goodwill and acting like some imperialist etc.

Fast forward to today. People don't really say that anymore. Ask Lithuanian people themselves who voted out Gabrielius Landsbergis (the most vocal advocate of it) as well a lot of the incumbent party at that time. Per polls, they didn't agree with how the government handled China and Taiwan relations at the time stating that this values based policy brought unnecessary pain. Gitanas Nausėda said it was a mistake although this is just damage control.

Lithuania is still causing trouble although more quiet. But China acted assertive and didn't lose its goodwill. Rather it shows that it should be taken seriously and that it deserves respect. Even now I would say its still not really given the respect it actually deserves. People are just begrudgingly giving it coz they don't really have a choice.
Those libs who pretend to support China ultimately want China to follow their script. They keep forgetting that China is a sovereign nation and not their social experiment.

So the moment they see China going against their script, such as standing firm on the issue of Taiwan, they go nuts. To them, China was supposed to become another Taiwan, meek and obedient. China was not supposed to speak out against a white European nation. So when China is not obeying to their script, they throw all kinds of labels at it, calling it fascist, imperial, authoritarian, etc.

The liberals and conservatives are two sides of the same imperial coin. Both have the same goal of undermining your sovereignty. Imagine them as robbers. The conservatives would try to barge through your front door. But the liberals would try to influence your household to open the door. The end goal is the same.
 

Africablack

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That dude is a liberal with BDSM mental issues. He knows that the Nazis are evil, but he finds every excuse for the Japanese Imperial Institution. He goes so far as to justify Japan getting nukes if China dares to threaten the Chrysanthemum Throne. He just loves the Japanese Emperor.

A typical raging liberal with no cow sense of actual history. Nazi bad, but Japanese Emperor good. Anyone opposes him, and he calls them basement imperialists. As the saying goes, scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.

P.S. When he is mad, he likes to talk about sitting down young boys and whipping their butts with leather. The guy a sicko.
You're not even a real Chinese, you have zero room to talk. The Chinese I know don't speak crudely like a westerner, you're a fraud.

You can't even point to any quotes or claims, you can't hold a proper debate and you can't even go without insults.
 

Randomuser

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Those libs who pretend to support China ultimately want China to follow their script. They keep forgetting that China is a sovereign nation and is not their social experiment.

So the moment they see China going against their script, such as standing firm on the issue of Taiwan, they go nuts. Because to them China was supposed to become another Taiwan, meek and obedient. China was not supposed to speak out against a white European nation. So because China is not obeying to their script, they throw all kinds of labels at it, calling it fascist, imperial, and authoritarian.

The liberals and conservatives two sides of the same imperialistic coin. Both have the same goal of undermining your sovereignty. Imagine them as robbers. The conservatives would try to barge through your front door. But the liberals would try to influence your household to open the door. The end goal is the same.
Not even just western libs. Like the rest of the world.

Lets face it. We still live in a western dominated world where the west set the rules, what is considered proper, how you should view certain people or countries. Basically a caste system. And Chinese are supposed to be at the bottom per germanic winnology. Thats why you can get some impoverished Syrian mocking Chinese when you have to ask on what basis can he look down? Why did China not really get hit that much by the trade war? Why wasn't China semiconductor industry executed by Biden? Why is China acting mad when we are putting a warship next to it?

China being able to act assertive and issue sanctions effectively is a recent thing. People are still not used to it. And most of them don't really have confidence that China can win if they were to bet the house on it (hell a lot of Chinese don't)
 
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Sardaukar20

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Japanese are actively trying to undermine China's sovereignty by meddling with Taiwan. Japan has been funding and supporting the DPP, Japan's foreign office has funded numerous groups and NGOs to manipulate Taiwan's media and public opinions to vilify China.

Japan is also stating that they will militarily intervene with Taiwan's unification.

Japan is not trying to colonize China but their action is close enough to it.

Edit: btw, have you heard of Nanjing massacre and Unit 731? If not then maybe you should seek a little education. Japan till this day denies those events and try to paint themselves as victim of ww2, their history books has little to no account of Japan's atrocities but focus on their own loss.

The mainstream narrative in Japan about ww2 was not that they're sorry for starting the war but that they're sorry for losing it.
Correction. Japan is trying to colonize China. Taiwan is a part of China.

Imagine the Belgium today meddling in the internal politics within a region of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. That's what Japan is essentially doing.
 
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