My own comments on the current state of anti-chinese propaganda:
I've recently noticed that (especially on reddit) there is now a rising trend of anti-china people that are now trying to propagate their anti-chinese agenda via a different way, at least a much different way from the traditional route. And this is slightly harder for some people to detect, think of this as similar to the ever-evolving ways of social engineering used for scamming.
That is, by trying to completely revision Chinese history by pretending to be a subject expert or historian, but they are in fact bad faith actors. These people are active on history related subreddits and sometimes are even moderators of said subreddits. But in actual fact what they said have absolutely no substance or factual backing if one were to scrutinise their words closely and do a basic level of research. Despite them trying really hard to phrase their comments in a scholarly way, the bad faith component of their comments are quite obvious to see.
One such example of this is the blatant denial that the Manchus were Chinese people, the denial of sinicization, the claim of the existence of "Manchuria" in Chinese history, the intentional interchangeable use of the terms "Chinese" and "Han" (which are a complete erroneous use of semantics, similar to how pro-green frogs love to conflate the semantics between "China" and "PRC" to get their nonsensical points across) and claiming that Han people are the ones that colonised their conquerors. Their intentions of making these points are to explain why Manchus, and by extension "Manchuria", should be fighting for "freedom" just like what they think the other autonomous regions are doing. And then to make up a cover story to explain why the Manchus are currently not doing so (to their disappointment). And in their view, the separation of Qing from China as a whole, while nonsensical, is also helpful for them to reinforce their argument about the separatism of the other Chinese ethnics as well.
Please note that none of their claims were backed by facts and they always like to selectively quote writings from academics (with omission of context that is unhelpful to them) to make themselves seem legitimate, and they always reference to a western author/ historian without fail. And ironically, it is always from the same few western historian that is known in the circle to be very biased and full of shit too.
These kinds of comments are really easy to spot if you read enough. The moderator of r/chinesehistory is one such example, and he is not even trying to hide his very strong anti-china bias in some of the comments where he accidently let his true colours slipped. The amount of bad faith arguments made by these people, from seemly small details such as purposely using the wrong semantics, to outright spreading misinformation and lying by omission is quite immense. And the sad thing is there are always a number of people out there with zero critical thinking skills that are buying their shit up without much thought, and a lot of it is owed to their pretense of authority on the subject matter. I actually think the effort they spend doing this kind of despicable things are quite commendable to be honest, if only they spend it on actual jobs or doing something positive for society.
Just my personal thoughts based on the things I came across.
I've recently noticed that (especially on reddit) there is now a rising trend of anti-china people that are now trying to propagate their anti-chinese agenda via a different way, at least a much different way from the traditional route. And this is slightly harder for some people to detect, think of this as similar to the ever-evolving ways of social engineering used for scamming.
That is, by trying to completely revision Chinese history by pretending to be a subject expert or historian, but they are in fact bad faith actors. These people are active on history related subreddits and sometimes are even moderators of said subreddits. But in actual fact what they said have absolutely no substance or factual backing if one were to scrutinise their words closely and do a basic level of research. Despite them trying really hard to phrase their comments in a scholarly way, the bad faith component of their comments are quite obvious to see.
One such example of this is the blatant denial that the Manchus were Chinese people, the denial of sinicization, the claim of the existence of "Manchuria" in Chinese history, the intentional interchangeable use of the terms "Chinese" and "Han" (which are a complete erroneous use of semantics, similar to how pro-green frogs love to conflate the semantics between "China" and "PRC" to get their nonsensical points across) and claiming that Han people are the ones that colonised their conquerors. Their intentions of making these points are to explain why Manchus, and by extension "Manchuria", should be fighting for "freedom" just like what they think the other autonomous regions are doing. And then to make up a cover story to explain why the Manchus are currently not doing so (to their disappointment). And in their view, the separation of Qing from China as a whole, while nonsensical, is also helpful for them to reinforce their argument about the separatism of the other Chinese ethnics as well.
Please note that none of their claims were backed by facts and they always like to selectively quote writings from academics (with omission of context that is unhelpful to them) to make themselves seem legitimate, and they always reference to a western author/ historian without fail. And ironically, it is always from the same few western historian that is known in the circle to be very biased and full of shit too.
These kinds of comments are really easy to spot if you read enough. The moderator of r/chinesehistory is one such example, and he is not even trying to hide his very strong anti-china bias in some of the comments where he accidently let his true colours slipped. The amount of bad faith arguments made by these people, from seemly small details such as purposely using the wrong semantics, to outright spreading misinformation and lying by omission is quite immense. And the sad thing is there are always a number of people out there with zero critical thinking skills that are buying their shit up without much thought, and a lot of it is owed to their pretense of authority on the subject matter. I actually think the effort they spend doing this kind of despicable things are quite commendable to be honest, if only they spend it on actual jobs or doing something positive for society.
Just my personal thoughts based on the things I came across.
