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plawolf

plawolf

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FairAndUnbiased said:
China will never be controlled by them and they can't do anything about China's hard power either. Their propaganda is completely ineffective in East Asia as a whole, look at the backlash it got in South Korea. Being strong, independent and unable to be brainwashed is itself a sin, even when not aimed at them.
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They can get their ‘son’ the US to try to take on China for the unforgivable sin of not being under their total control and subjugation.
 
FriedButter

FriedButter

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Putin to hold telephone call with Chinese President Xi this week — presidential aide​

The Russian president will have a telephone conversation with the President of China, during which, naturally, in addition to bilateral topics, issues of the current situation in the Middle East will be discussed

MOSCOW, June 17. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin will hold a telephone conversation with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping in the coming days and they will discuss both bilateral issues and the escalation in the Middle East, Russian Presidential Aide Yury Ushakov said on Tuesday.

"Literally in the coming days, this week, our president will have a telephone conversation with the President of [China] Xi Jinping, during which, naturally, in addition to bilateral topics, issues of the current situation in the Middle East will be discussed, where China and Russia act in unison and coordinate positions with each other," he said. "Other issues will be certainly discussed as well."
Overnight into June 13, Israel kicked off Operation Rising Lion aimed against Iran’s nuclear program.

Iran carried out a retaliatory attack in less than 24 hours. Israel and Iran exchanged strikes again in the following days. Both parties reported casualties and damage, and admitted that a number of facilities had been hit, but said the damage was limited.
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FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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BlackWindMnt said:
Yeah it seems like Iranians really are Indo-European in heart and soul.

Iranians are as confident as Indians in their plans and schemes. They are also European in a way that their plans and schemes seems to backfire and become self sabotaging and destructive.
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Indian and Persian civilization were the first civilizations founded by Indo European conquerors expanding out of Central Asia. Maybe that explains why the Iranian regime acts like India. Try to play all sides then end up getting f-ed by all sides.

gelgoog said:
Iran don't trust anybody and want national resilience and strength. It is as simple as that.
In the Iran-Iraq War they had few trustworthy weapon suppliers despite fighting a defensive war too.

Any weapon systems Iran buys they want licensed production in Iran because of this.
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But Iran struggles to even do as well as North Korea, a much smaller, poorer, less developed and less populous nation. North Korea even provides technical assistance to Iran.
 
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dingyibvs

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Phead128 said:
Iran does not regard China as an ally, so why should Iran be entitled to Chinese military intervention for defense? Mutual defense treaties require mutually aligned interests - thus far, Iran is far more interested in worshipping the West than solidify strategic ties with China. If Iran only regards China as country of last resort after failing to pander to Western powers, then under no circumstances would China provide troops to fight on their behalf. Even if Iran kowtow to China, China isn't going to overstretch it's armies in Middle East and drain itself in costly war. At best, China provide ISR, satellite, dual use goods, so US army is quagmired there for decades and drain a generation of their blood.
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I don't know why people keep looking at this as China helping Iran. China isn't in the business to hand out charities, it would intervene in Iran for its own benefit. Iran would benefit too, but they'll have to pay for it as I listed already in my previous posts. The deal can work because in that case the interests would align. If they don't then China won't intervene, as it hasn't at least not overtly.

Just to repeat my reasoning for Chinese intervention. In the event of AR, the expected Western response is a blockade far from Chinese shores in the IOR. China does not have the expeditionary force to contest this effectively, it will need to rely on land links to help "port hop" its way west, and Iran would be a key part of it. Now, do you think it's easier to do this now or wait until US troops are entrenched in Iran with the backing of a puppet government?
 
FriedRiceNSpice

FriedRiceNSpice

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dingyibvs said:
I don't know why people keep looking at this as China helping Iran. China isn't in the business to hand out charities, it would intervene in Iran for its own benefit. Iran would benefit too, but they'll have to pay for it as I listed already in my previous posts. The deal can work because in that case the interests would align. If they don't then China won't intervene, as it hasn't at least not overtly.

Just to repeat my reasoning for Chinese intervention. In the event of AR, the expected Western response is a blockade far from Chinese shores in the IOR. China does not have the expeditionary force to contest this effectively, it will need to rely on land links to help "port hop" its way west, and Iran would be a key part of it. Now, do you think it's easier to do this now or wait until US troops are entrenched in Iran with the backing of a puppet government?
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Best case scenario would be for the current regime to barely hang on throughout the conflict, and shortly afterward be replaced afterwards by a new secular, nationalist, pragmatic, and anti-imperialist regime with strong domestic support. Wouldn't count on it though.
 
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