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World | Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:53am EDT
Related: WORLD, CHINA
China deploys ships to help Vietnam find missing coastguard plane

China sent ships on Friday in response to a request from Vietnam to help find a coastguard plane that crashed with nine personnel aboard while looking for a missing fighter jet and pilot, Vietnam's defense ministry said.

The CASA turboprop plane went down on Thursday in the Gulf of Tonkin, between Vietnam's northern coastline and China's Hainan Island, where the rescue team had found some debris and personal items, the ministry said in a statement.

The Airbus-made plane was searching for a Sukhoi SU-30 MK2 fighter jet and a missing pilot that went off radar on Tuesday. One of the two fighter pilots was rescued from the sea the following day.

Thousands of Vietnamese coastguard, border guard, navy, air force and fishermen have been searching for the aircraft and the second pilot.

China sent one rescue and two coastguard boats to help search for the CASA plane in response to Vietnam's request for assistance and to allow its vessels to enter the Chinese side of a maritime boundary agreed between the two countries. The coastguard plane went down in bad weather and low visibility.

Vietnam has suffered a series of accidents in the past two years with its aging helicopters, but plane crashes have been rare.

It is currently overseeing its biggest military buildup in four decades and wants to upgrade its air and sea defenses, including plans to purchase fighter jets, a strategy experts say is aimed at building a deterrent against China's military rise.

The Communist parties that rule China and Vietnam are historically close, but tensions are high over territorial disputes between them in the South China Sea.

Vietnam has stepped up efforts to strengthen its coastguard, with help from Japan, which has its own maritime squabbles with China, and the United States, which has repeatedly locked horns with Beijing and insists it has stake in ensuring freedom of navigation and flight in the South China Sea.

(Reporting by Mai Nguyen; Editing by Martin Petty and Simon Cameron-Moore)
 

Zool

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World|Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:42am EDT
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NAHA, JAPAN|BY
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Tens of thousands of people gathered in sweltering heat on Japan's Okinawa island on Sunday in one of the biggest demonstrations in two decades against U.S. military bases, following the arrest of an American suspected of murdering a local woman.

The protest marked a new low for the United States and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in their relations with the island and threatens plans to move the U.S. Marines Futenma air station to a less populous part of the island.

Organizers said 65,000 people attended the rally at a park in central Naha.

"Japan is part of Japan and when you hurt your little finger the whole body feels pain. I want Abe to feel Okinawa's pain," said Shigenori Tsuhako, 70, who came to the event because his grand daughter is the same age as the 20-year-old murdered woman, Rina Shimabukuro.

The United States and Japan agreed in 1996 to close Futenma, located in a residential area, after the rape of a 12-year-old Japanese schoolgirl by three U.S. military personnel spurred mass demonstrations.

That plan has been on hold because residents near the proposed relocation site oppose the move, worrying about noise, pollution and crime.

Okinawa assembly members against the move won a majority in the prefectural assembly election this month, providing support for Okinawa Governor Takeshi Onaga's plan to have the base move elsewhere.

Speaking to the crowd in Naha, he said he would fight to have those U.S. Marines moved off the island.

Okinawa hosts 50,000 U.S. nationals, including 30,000 military personnel and civilian contractors.

The site of some of the bloodiest fighting between the U.S. and Japan in World War Two, Okinawa remained under American occupation until 1972 and around a fifth of it is still under U.S. military control.

Lieutenant General Lawrence D. Nicholson, commander of the U.S. Marines there, told Reuters on Saturday that Washington may be able to return a 10,000 acre (40.5 square km) tract of jungle early next year, which would be the biggest hand back since 1972.

Yet, with the United States and Japan looking to contain China's growing might in the East China Sea, the Okinawan island chain, stretching close to Taiwan, is becoming strategically more valuable to military planners.

Japan's Self Defence Force, which is pivoting away from defending its northern borders, is fortifying the region with radar bases and anti-ship missile batteries.

Last month's arrest of the U.S. civilian worker prompted the U.S. military to announce a 30-day period of mourning for the victim and restrict off-base drinking in a bid to assuage local anger.

But relations frayed further with the subsequent arrest of a U.S. sailor on Okinawa on suspicion of drunk driving following a car crash.

"All U.S. bases in Japan should close. I want Abe to listen to what the people in Okinawa are saying," said Ryoko Shimabukuro, a 28-year-old government worker at the protest.

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Protesters raise placards reading 'Anger was over the limit' during a rally against the U.S. military presence on the island and a series of crimes and other incidents involving U.S. soldiers and base workers, at a park in the prefectural capital Naha on Japan's southern...
 

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"All U.S. bases in Japan should close. I want Abe to listen to what the people in Okinawa are saying," said Ryoko Shimabukuro, a 28-year-old government worker at the protest.

Sounds to me like the locals had enough with the US world policing to "contain Communism at any costs".
 

Janiz

Senior Member
Sounds to me like the locals had enough with the US world policing to "contain Communism at any costs".
Ryukyu Islands chain lives thanks to the money from Tokyo... Add to that it's a well known destination for people who don't like to work hard from all over Japan (usually left-oriented, they like a superb climate there rather than superb amount of money and workrate of Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya and other cities) adds up to the some sort of stereotype in Japanese society that population of Ryukyu Islands is usually dumber than the average of the main islands. Like they don't even speak a proper Japanese (let alone Kanji), lazy etc. And natives have some crazy family names that you can't read properly when written in Kanji as well ;)

And it isn't groundless if you had an occasion to meet them. Fortunately, they are managed by smart people who know how to grab money from the capital city.
 
Ryukyu Islands chain lives thanks to the money from Tokyo... Add to that it's a well known destination for people who don't like to work hard from all over Japan (usually left-oriented, they like a superb climate there rather than superb amount of money and workrate of Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya and other cities) adds up to the some sort of stereotype in Japanese society that population of Ryukyu Islands is usually dumber than the average of the main islands. Like they don't even speak a proper Japanese (let alone Kanji), lazy etc. And natives have some crazy family names that you can't read properly when written in Kanji as well ;)

And it isn't groundless if you had an occasion to meet them. Fortunately, they are managed by smart people who know how to grab money from the capital city.

Japan's invasion, annexation, and colonization of the formerly independent Ryukyus included forced Japanese cultural assimilation/native cultural genocide. The prejudiced stereotyping and struggling local traits you mentioned are direct consequences of Imperial Japan's aggression and repression.
 

solarz

Brigadier
@Zool

You have to wonder, just what is wrong with the culture of American military personnel in Japan and SK that these things would happen over and over again. How often do we hear about American military personnel committing violent crimes on American soil?
 

Zool

Junior Member
@Zool

You have to wonder, just what is wrong with the culture of American military personnel in Japan and SK that these things would happen over and over again. How often do we hear about American military personnel committing violent crimes on American soil?

Well, its an international deployment that has been in place for decades now and is unwanted by the majority of Okinawans, in an increasingly tense region. It makes sense that headlines will be made when crimes, particularly against women and young girls occur over the duration, in that context.

I personally don't wonder about the culture of American Forces in Japan or Asia specifically, because you have bad apples in every bunch (or bad decisions helped along by drugs or alcohol etc) regardless of location or media coverage. Just the same I would not isolate improper conduct to American troops alone, ex. French Troops in Africa -
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To answer your question about the occurrence of violent acts on American soil, they happen often to varying degrees (Brawls - Murders). You would have a better chance of catching it if you followed each state/districts local news. Here is a quick example of cases being investigated at
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