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phrozenflame

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We missed the news due to the Trump circle show yesterday. We will have to wait and see but I guess war could be looming over the horizon. Which naturally means J-10C and JF-17 could see combat action.
  • India suspends Water Treaty
  • India expels all Pakistani citizens
  • India-Pakistan Atari border is closed
  • India Military Delegates recalled from Pakistan
  • Pakistan Military Delegates expelled from India
  • Diplomatic presence reduced

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Trump is practically egging Modi on to get tough with Pakistan.


This could be a boon for American defense contractors thirsty for the Bharati market! ;)

Long term strategy to keep Chinese surroundings unstable. First, Russia, then we've had terrorists hitting Belt and Road in Pakistan and soft targets like civilians (PK and CN) using advanced NATO weapons.

China is exceptionally nice to India, probably because its too small a fish (right now) ignoring that India is already actively engaged in a proxy warfare against Chinese interests.

I think its a major strategic white space not replying to India in kind.
 

AssassinsMace

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And Walmart thought at first they could get China to eat Trump’s tariff so they didn’t have to pay it…? This is where you have question how evil are they. If China only makes pennies on each dollar Walmart sells products made by Chinese, is the tariff on the landed cost to Walmart or is it from the retail price? Because if Walmart was pressuring Chinese companies to pay the tariff based on the retail price, the Chinese make no money for themselves.
 

phrozenflame

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Nothing would suit China more than india dragging itself into an armed conflict with pakistan, at this time conjuncture.
Only if it leads to India getting smacked or stalemated, otherwise you'd just have ally taper off.

There reaction so far is just noise, nothing substantial as typical of India.

They dont have infrastructure to stop water flow. It will take decades and billions. China can just block the entire thing and probably have infra in place much before. They know this.

Regarding visas, consular staff and border show , nobody genuinely cares, in Pakistani social media, whats trending are some celeb leaks lmao.

We're just living rent-free. Theyre just compensating for their self created complexes.
 

pmc

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Zelensky was never mighty. Only Israeli ex PM saved him and no one contradict it and Zelensky never said Thank You to Israel.
When you study this war where it started when Putin blamed Jews for running away during hard times end up rescuing a Israeli. and the other Soft Power is so much when that Sultan of Oman met Putin was already extending invite to him for next meeting.

 

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In 2002, India and Pakistan came very close to full-scale war after a terrorist attack on the Indian parliament in December 2001 that New Delhi blamed on Pakistan-based militant groups. The US played a key diplomatic role in de-escalating the crisis.

The messaging we are seeing from senior officials points to the US being fully behind India – and that it would not stand in the way of how India will respond,” Kugelman said.
No Pig Pompeos to oink about and cockblock everything this time like the last few crises.
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Meaning, hopefully, the potential for more fireworks this time around. As foreseen by me a few years ago for the next inevitable flareup between these 2 (the US trending more pro-India and anti-Pak because of China, thereby being less able to play the crucial mediator/defusing role it has in past instances), but I wasn't quite expecting Trump to be so shamelessly pro-BJP.
 

Randomuser

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I'm sort of getting why China doesn't really waste much time and energy on India. At the rate things go, maybe India and Pakistan will end up nuking each other before China even thinks seriously about implementing the plan to take Taiwan by force.

So instead maybe China should think more on keeping itself safe from the rest of the world first since everywhere else seems to be turning into a mess. Build force fields or ways to nullify nukes.
 

AssassinsMace

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I saw Jake Sullivan being interviewed and he was talking about how Trump squandered away all what the US has built in reputation. He pointed to how the US can draw tech talent from the 7 billion people world while China only has a billion. Well apparently China’s one billion is a whole lot higher quality than the US’s 7 billion and a lot of it was displayed under his President’s watch.
 

han1289

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Only if it leads to India getting smacked or stalemated, otherwise you'd just have ally taper off.

There reaction so far is just noise, nothing substantial as typical of India.

They dont have infrastructure to stop water flow. It will take decades and billions. China can just block the entire thing and probably have infra in place much before. They know this.

Regarding visas, consular staff and border show , nobody genuinely cares, in Pakistani social media, whats trending are some celeb leaks lmao.

We're just living rent-free. Theyre just compensating for their self created complexes.

it might spillover into a muslim vs hindu internal conflict. the more india overreacts towards their muslim population (which is majority of kashmir) the more likely. this will keep the country continually paralyzed and preoccupied for another decade. by then automation would've made a billion of their low skill workers a crippling burden rather than another potential China.
 

neutralobserver

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- Pakistan declares suspension of IWT to be "Act of War", vows to secure Indus Basin Rivers at all costs.
- Indian mil attachés PNG. Must leave by April 30
- All trade and transit suspended.
- Airspace use by Indian Airlines suspended.
- All bilateral agreements suspended with India
- Any attempt by India to divert Indus water will be an act of war

Pakistan's National Security Committee
 

Randomuser

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- Pakistan declares suspension of IWT to be "Act of War", vows to secure Indus Basin Rivers at all costs.
- Indian mil attachés PNG. Must leave by April 30
- All trade and transit suspended.
- Airspace use by Indian Airlines suspended.
- All bilateral agreements suspended with India
- Any attempt by India to divert Indus water will be an act of war

Pakistan's National Security Committee
Is it happening?
 
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