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solarz

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Good op/ed by Tom Fowdy in response to article in foreign Policy by neocon Dan Blumenthal as usual Hubris in the same vein as G Chang "the coming collapse of China" make an entertaining reading
They have been saying that for decades

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America’s fantasy that China will soon collapse like the Soviet Union did is based on arrogance and ideology, not facts and reason​


Tom Fowdy
Washington’s dream that Beijing is doomed to failure seems as strong as ever, despite events of the last year showing that American triumphalism is misplaced, misguided and potentially moribund.

2020 was a year to forget, but it was also immensely geopolitically significant. The outbreak of Covid-19 was a world-changing event which will profoundly alter the globe. Not least because the political shockwaves it created have brought relations between the United States and China to their lowest ebb in modern times.
In what many describe as a “new cold war,” the Trump administration has used its remaining time in office to escalate confrontation with Beijing and forcefully set a legacy for Joe Biden to follow. In setting out this scenario, some in the United States have framed the situation and its risks in very “short termist” thinking. It assumes China only has a short space of time to achieve its goals before, apparently, it becomes economically and socially depleted.

An article published in Foreign Policy, titled
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and covering the book The China Nightmare: The Grand Ambitions of a Decaying State, by American Enterprise Institute’s Dan Blumenthal, argues that China’s political system is weak and lacking in legitimacy. It then proceeds to argue that it is therefore, apparently, ideologically incapable of generating sustained growth or the innovation required to truly become a superpower and “displace” the US. As a result, the piece argues, Beijing only has a short period of time to “accomplish its goals,” thus making it dangerous.


Not surprisingly, I don’t buy into this argument. If anything, I would describe this kind of attitude, which I term “collapsism” as an ideological expression of overconfidence from some within the United States. It is a view which has become endemic since the end of the Cold War in 1991, which simply assumes China must be destined to fail at some point, while America marches on.

This of course is to be expected from the American Enterprise Institute, which, it goes without saying, is a ridiculously neoconservative and pro-war institution, but it nevertheless represents a broader and more misleading set of assumptions in American politics. The idea, perhaps more famously put by Gordon Chang’s “The coming collapse of China” ( 2001), is simply that the Chinese system is doomed to implode because it doesn’t tick the right ideological boxes. If anything, this view risks America being overconfident.

“Collapsism” better known as the “end of history thesis” is a strand of Cold War thinking which assumes that liberal capitalism is the only way to create a successful and stable country. It holds that all other ideologies are fundamentally flawed and cannot truly replicate the success of the West, even if they represent a geopolitical threat. It is an expression of American triumphalism following the collapse of the Soviet Union, based on the premise that in the end the West became more prosperous than the USSR and had outmatched it on innovation.

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LOL, it's become a pattern that anything the US projects onto China is something they are experiencing themselves.
 
LOL, it's become a pattern that anything the US projects onto China is something they are experiencing themselves.
Karmic or Karma-like.
Something foreign to western philosophy.

Im happy to be proven wrong, but I think the U.S. is a long way off from collapsing.
Empires decay and decline. Rarely do they totally collapse.
Here the video of Prof Jeffrey Sach rebutal of BBC trying to frame China a human right abuser and instead shame the dumb blonde trying to to cut in Prof Sachs
Professor Jeffrey Sachs: "The US always attacks other countries. It holds itself sacrosanct."
Here we have the BBC host acknowledging the framing of US government as sacred truth that needs to be addressed and acted upon. BBC's mission is to propagate US and anglo's rule.
 
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LesAdieux

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This is so cringe; up there with the "Asians are Not Virus" shit that boba liberals and white worshipping asians do.

in other news, Czech leaders decided white anglo supremacy is their bag:


I've noticed this with some "lesser whites/caucasians" ie eastern european migrants to the anglosphere, turks etc that they are horrendously racist against a rising China since they feel it threatens their White Privilege which they never really got to enjoy in the USSR/poorer home country.
same for many of those from HK, Singapore, Taiwan. they see themselves as the beneficiaries of the Western rule, and proud of their once colonial subjects identity, full of "the proud whore complex". China made mistakes on how to treat them before. Xi got it right, that is: treat a whore like a whore.
 
This is so cringe; up there with the "Asians are Not Virus" shit that boba liberals and white worshipping asians do.

in other news, Czech leaders decided white anglo supremacy is their bag:


I've noticed this with some "lesser whites/caucasians" ie eastern european migrants to the anglosphere, turks etc that they are horrendously racist against a rising China since they feel it threatens their White Privilege which they never really got to enjoy in the USSR/poorer home country.
same for many of those from HK, Singapore, Taiwan. they see themselves as the beneficiaries of the Western rule, and proud of their once colonial subjects identity, full of "the proud whore complex". China made mistakes on how to treat them before. Xi got it right, that is: treat a whore like a whore.

These group of people see themselves next in line in the pecking order for the Anglo Hegemonic order.
Just like Australia thinks they are sheriff for the anglo order.

They see their standing threaten not because of what China has done to them but by what China has done to herself to surpass them.
 

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
Registered Member
These group of people see themselves next in line in the pecking order for the Anglo Hegemonic order.
Just like Australia thinks they are sheriff for the anglo order.

They see their standing threaten not because of what China has done to them but by what China has done to herself to surpass them.
To be more nuanced, Taiwanese worship whoever is in vogue. White, Japanese, or Korean depending on which pop culture is cool right now.

Of course this doesn't excuse the fact that it is very superficial.
 
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